Dimitri, Adrian, all,

Thanks for clarification.

Yes, there is not much text on using PCE for L1VPNs, and L1VPNs have not
started P&R in detail.

My intension was we might want to start thinking about analysis of P&R
in L1VPNs, and if that is the case, PCE may come into play. It was not
my intention that PCE is *THE* solution for L1VPNs (analysis needed).
Also, I agree that CE-CE recovery is beyond the basic mode.

Thanks,
Tomonori

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:26:04 +0100
"Adrian Farrel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dimitri,
> 
> >> "- Dimitri: Please clarity the use of PCE
> >> - Tomonori: As Adrian said, CCAMP has selected PCE. L1VPN is not
> requiring
> >>    the use of PCE, but recognising the possiblity of using PCE for P&R"
> >
> > but this is not what adrian could have said as i've never seen a
> statement
> > such as L1VPN recognizes the possibility of using PCE for P&R ... as
> > there is no CE dual homing discussion since so far
> 
> In fact, what I said is recorded pretty well in the minutes immediately
> above. To remind you, I was speaking from the floor as CCAMP chair.
> 
> Adrian: CCAMP has a work item for multi-domain recovery.
>         The L1VPN CE has a different visibility from the core network so
> is like multi-domain.
>         For the unprotected case in multi-domain, CCAMP found that PCE
> would be a good approach
>         I may expect a similar approach from CCAMP for protected
> multi-domain.
> 
> You are right that L1VPN has not started work on P&R in any detail, and
> functions like CE dual homing are beyond the scope of the Basic Model. So,
> nothing is decided.
> 
> Tomonori stressed that L1VPN does not require the use of PCE. He is also
> correct to say that we should recognise and discuss the possility of using
> PCE to resolve questions of computational visiblity.
> 
> A
> 
> PS. Thanks for the other comments below.
> 
> >
> > "Dimitri: It is a timing issue; They have today an OSPF environment and
> > are willing to deploy quickly.
> >          BGP may be a solution in 4-5 years"
> >
> > the last part of the message was "No doubt that BGP is a sensible
> > approach, but if we have to base our timing
> > by relying on IGP deployment experience, BGP may be the solution of
> choice
> > in 4-5 years."
> >
> > "Yakov: Update on the BGP-based auto-discovery
> >        We don't want to have a new AFI, we just need a new SAFI
> >        New format for l1vpn LNRI"
> >
> > guess you mean NLRI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Adrian Farrel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 10/04/2006 15:25
> > Please respond to Adrian Farrel
> >
> >         To:     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        [L1vpn] Draft minutes uploaded
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Please review the minutes at
> > http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06mar/minutes/l1vpn.html
> >
> > Comments on the list or to the chairs.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Adrian
> >
> >
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