Extended community will not cut it.

My original reaction was why not to define the new BGP attribute and
use it within RTC SAFI ? But before I suggested that I wanted to
better understand the genesis of extending ORF.

That could also be encoded in BGP Wide Communities which we are (I
hope) close to re-publish soon.

Many thx,
R.




On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Lucy yong <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> If we have applications that need "pull" capability, we can develop a BGP 
> "out-of-band" mechanism and/or BGP based mechanism. I agree that the use of 
> Route Refresh to convey this request is not very good approach. How about 
> this approach?
>
> We can define a new extended community, say route-request. A BGP speaker can 
> distribute NLRI with a requested address/prefix and this extended community 
> that encodes the route target associated to this route. When a peer places 
> the route into the Adj-RIB-Out, it applies the following rules:
>
>    o  all BGP attributes except for Route Targets are unchanged
>
>    o  The Route Target specified by the CP-ORF Import Route Target is
>       added to the list or Route Targets that the route already carries
>
> Of course, this extended community MUST mutual exclusive with Route Target 
> extended community, i.e. separate "pull" and "push" action in NLRI.
>
> Regards,
> Lucy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 1:40 PM
> To: Lucy yong
> Cc: Ronald Bonica; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for 
> draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes-00.txt
>
> Lucy,
>
>> [Lucy] why do you think that this mechanism is simpler than the one
>> proposed in the draft? To me, it just shifts the request capability
>> outside BGP. It makes BGP simple, but not necessary mean the solution 
>> simpler.
>
> The main point is not about using BGP or not. Here if anything industry and 
> in particular this WG has been converging to use RT Constrain for controlling 
> VPN route distribution. This draft however now proposed ORF which runs over 
> Route Refresh. That means that at least one benefit of RTC is lost - 
> incremental updates.
>
> In fact I would say this is a grey area how to run RTC and ORF together for 
> the same set of VRFs.
>
> My focus was not to debate about using BGP rather the focus is to use right 
> tool for the task.
>
> Imagine I have deployed another L3VPN WG document namely:
> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-01
>
> In such architecture I have decoupled for a number of good reasons data plane 
> and control plane to completely different physical boxes.
> Note also that in such design I already have on the complete system a stats 
> collector where it is really trivial to trigger a message to v-hub in order 
> to inject more specifics.
>
> Contrary if I am to use proposed solution I need to modify XMPP as well as 
> number of other system wide components to achieve the goal.
>
> Best regards,
> R.

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