No :) New extended community is not a new attribute.

r.

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Lucy yong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My original reaction was why not to define the new BGP attribute and use it 
> within RTC SAFI ?
> [Lucy] Extended community is a new attribute, isn't it? I don't get the 
> second part.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Lucy yong <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> If we have applications that need "pull" capability, we can develop a BGP 
>> "out-of-band" mechanism and/or BGP based mechanism. I agree that the use of 
>> Route Refresh to convey this request is not very good approach. How about 
>> this approach?
>>
>> We can define a new extended community, say route-request. A BGP speaker can 
>> distribute NLRI with a requested address/prefix and this extended community 
>> that encodes the route target associated to this route. When a peer places 
>> the route into the Adj-RIB-Out, it applies the following rules:
>>
>>    o  all BGP attributes except for Route Targets are unchanged
>>
>>    o  The Route Target specified by the CP-ORF Import Route Target is
>>       added to the list or Route Targets that the route already
>> carries
>>
>> Of course, this extended community MUST mutual exclusive with Route Target 
>> extended community, i.e. separate "pull" and "push" action in NLRI.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lucy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Raszuk
>> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 1:40 PM
>> To: Lucy yong
>> Cc: Ronald Bonica; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for
>> draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes-00.txt
>>
>> Lucy,
>>
>>> [Lucy] why do you think that this mechanism is simpler than the one
>>> proposed in the draft? To me, it just shifts the request capability
>>> outside BGP. It makes BGP simple, but not necessary mean the solution 
>>> simpler.
>>
>> The main point is not about using BGP or not. Here if anything industry and 
>> in particular this WG has been converging to use RT Constrain for 
>> controlling VPN route distribution. This draft however now proposed ORF 
>> which runs over Route Refresh. That means that at least one benefit of RTC 
>> is lost - incremental updates.
>>
>> In fact I would say this is a grey area how to run RTC and ORF together for 
>> the same set of VRFs.
>>
>> My focus was not to debate about using BGP rather the focus is to use right 
>> tool for the task.
>>
>> Imagine I have deployed another L3VPN WG document namely:
>> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-01
>>
>> In such architecture I have decoupled for a number of good reasons data 
>> plane and control plane to completely different physical boxes.
>> Note also that in such design I already have on the complete system a stats 
>> collector where it is really trivial to trigger a message to v-hub in order 
>> to inject more specifics.
>>
>> Contrary if I am to use proposed solution I need to modify XMPP as well as 
>> number of other system wide components to achieve the goal.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> R.

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