Robert, I agree that it is useful  to document how to design an application in 
an IP only cloud environment. However this is a different document than the 
draft we are discussing here.

From: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday 3 December 2013 13:20
To: Wim Henderickx 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Thomas Morin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: on limitations of draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet

Hi Wim,

I am not questioning that things can break. I am just asking that it would be 
great to document those stating specific reasons or given's app design 
assumptions.

Cheers,
R.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Henderickx, Wim (Wim) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Robert, I got surprised recently how many things break in such environment and 
this is why I am reluctant to standardise this work. I also don’t believe the 
people who have to fix the applications will even read this work.

From: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday 3 December 2013 10:54
To: Wim Henderickx 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Pedro Roque Marques 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Thomas Morin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: on limitations of draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet

Hi Wim,

I think you are right that perhaps some Ethernet based applications may break. 
But perhaps it is worth to observe that wast majority of other applications may 
happily work on virtual subnet too.

So maybe rather then stopping adoption those who are worried about some 
specific applications not working in any of today's L2 emulations to document 
those in a draft.

For one it could be nice deployment guideline document to the operators and for 
the second it may give hints to application developers to fix their code :)

Best,
R.


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