> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: L3VPN [mailto:[email protected]] 代表 Joe Touch
> 发送时间: 2013年12月4日 3:11
> 收件人: Pedro Roque Marques
> 抄送: Thomas Morin; [email protected]
> 主题: Re: on limitations of draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/3/2013 10:47 AM, Pedro Roque Marques wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/3/2013 12:55 AM, Pedro Roque Marques wrote:
> >>> Is the fundamental IP behavior that you are referring to the TTL decrement
> between two addresses on the same "subnet" ?
> >>> I believe you are wrong: to my knowledge proxy ARP is compliant with Host
> and Router requirement RFCs.
> >>
> >> For IPv4, RFC1812 says that all 1's "limited broadcast"
> >> (255.255.255.255) MUST NOT be forwarded. RFC2644 updates that RFC to
> >> say that even subnet-directed broadcasts MUST NOT be forwarded (as
> >> configured by default).
> >>
> >> So by default, a router would never forward the broadcast for which
> >> the proxy ARP would be an appropriate response.
> >
> > yes.
> >
> >> Which would mean that the
> >> proxy would work only if already populated at the router;
> >
> > I don't follow. Lets assume i've a device that is an IP compliant
> > router which has interface A and interface B.
> > The quote above means that it should not forward a packet address to
> > 255.255.255.255 between link A and link B (or vice-versa). This has
> > nothing no relationship to whether this device is capable of
> > generating ARP requests or proxy ARP replies.
> 
> ARP requests would never be forwarded across such a device. This means that
> proxy ARP responses would either have to be manually configured or learned by
> the actions of some other party. There's no opportunity to have the proxy ARP
> be a short-cut for a relayed ARP - which limits the cases where proxy ARP can 
> be
> used.

Hi Joe,

It seems that you have mistakenly taken the ARP proxy as the ARP cache since 
ARP requests have never been expected to be forwarded across such a device in 
the ARP proxy case.

Xiaohu

> >> there would be
> >> no means to forward the initial request if the cache were empty. So
> >> proxy ARP would work if manually configured, but would be unreliable
> >> if automatically populated if used on a router that spans two groups
> >> of hosts on the same subnet.
> >
> > Proxy ARP is unrelated to subnet broadcasts.
> 
> See the example above; not always.
> 
> Joe

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