Hi Thomas,

There are two key differences between E-VPN and virtual-subnet wrt scaling:

1) E-VPN supports interconnection of routers.  virtual-subnet doesn't.  One of 
the key use-cases for a multi-point L2 service is to interconnect routers.
2) As well as E-VPN we are standardising PBB E-VPN in L2VPN.  PBB E-VPN only 
advertises provider MAC addresses in BGP.  Client MACs are learned/cached in 
the data plane.

Giles

On 11 Feb 2014, at 09:56, Thomas Morin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Giles, Thomas,
> 
> I would echo Robert's questions below, and ask an additional question: 
> advertising non aggregated host routes (v4 /32 routes or v6 /128 routes) in 
> BGP VPNv4 routes is not fundamentally different from a scaling standpoint 
> than advertising MAC addresses in E-VPN BGP routes.  
> What would be the reason to believe it would be an issue in one case but not 
> in the other  ?
> 
> -Thomas
> 
> 2014-02-11, Robert Raszuk:
>> <changing subject to reflect more broader l3vpn related topic>
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Could those who claim that that sending /32 or /64 or /128 in BGP mainly 
>> within contained DC zone environment will not scale be a bit more precise 
>> and kindly indicate what the real problem is ? 
>> 
>> * Which control or data plane element will not scale ? 
>> 
>> or 
>> 
>> * Which part of BGP state machine will not scale ? 
>> 
>> Just curious ....
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> R.
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Thomas Nadeau
>> >
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>         Thomas,
>> 
>>         I too object to it's adoption based on the /32 point Giles made. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014:2:29 PM, at 2:29 PM, Giles Heron <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > I don't support adoption of this draft as a WG item (speaking as a 
>> > non-author but name-checked commenter).
>> >
>> > The draft has a major limitation (no support for interconnecting routers, 
>> > but only for interconnecting hosts), and I'm unconvinced that passing /32 
>> > host routes around in BGP will scale.
>> 
>> 
> 

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