Two people who have contributed little or nothing to discussion on this list over the list have seen fit to use ad hominem attacks, bad language and now you pretend to speak for others. Who?
In any case, I have blocked both flamers from my private email box. This is not how intelligent discussion among adults is carried out. The State of Israel has been castigated many times for its brutal attacks on Palestinians, its land-theft and other crimes against humanity, which have been pointed out by many people in this group. Where is YOUR supporting evidence? When I posted that article from PressTV, which was the only source that I knew of at the time that criticized the racist propaganda film ARGO, I prefaced it with a caveat that while it APPEARED to be anti-Semitic, it is not. Iranians and Middle Easterners in general often say "Jew" when the mean "Zionist Jew," but anyone who knows the history of Jewish-Muslim relations knows that the House of Islam has always been much more tolerant of Judaism than Christianity. I stand by the assertion that Israel drives US foreign policy, as is clear from the article about Obama and Netanyahu, and that ARGO is propaganda to prepare the American public for a war with Iran. I think you have a lot of learning to do about the Middle East before either you, Gary or any of your mythical supporters can come up any serious articles that dispute this. I dare you to try. Hajja Romi --- In [email protected], steve zrucky <stovitzrucky@...> wrote: > > Gary Gordon's critique is the same as MANY OF US who read that racist rant. > Thanks Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: "gordon.gary2@..." <gordon.gary2@...> > To: 'Romi Elnagar' <bluesapphire48@...>; 'LAAMN' <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:22 PM > Subject: RE: [LAAMN] Oscar for ARGO: A crime against humanity > > >  > > How nice for Romi to elevate herself as a person of honor and therefore > claim a shield for herself as she merely forwards a piece that could have > come straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Follow the > so-called logic of the piece: Affleck is Riefenstahl. "Hollywood is a > virtually 100% Jewish enclave". Apparently the Zionist-Hollywood-Obama > conspiracy conspired to shaft Zero Dark Thirty from the awards and slap > Spielberg (or was he part of the conspiracy, purposely making film about > rectifying a gross inhumane element of the U.S. Constitution that he knew > would not win and agreeing in a backroom at some deli as they all ate matzoh > ball soup that Affleck should win?). > > The writer she forwards, Kevin Barrett, declares without any sense of the > preposterous that Argo is a propaganda film "designed to open the door to > war on Iran". Yeah, when I went everyone was so whipped up in nationalistic > fervor they all soaped their cars with Bomb Iran-it's just nonsense. > Barrett is using a fairly ordinary heist/rescue movie to forward his own > thinking about U.S.- Iran relations and his hostility toward Jews (using a > tired but workable tactic of equating Jews to Nazis). > > "The makers of Argo deserve. criminal conviction for crimes against > humanity. Instead, Hollywood's Zionist mafia." > > If you can't see the Crap in that line of pathetic, hate-filled, delusional > thinking-but then, I know you can't. You, Romi, have elevated yourself, > have declared yourself an honorable person who doesn't hate Jews and you're > merely forwarding this nonsense. > > It must be wonderful to live in the world Barrett lives in, where rhetorical > charges to a susceptible audience is all that's necessary, no evidence > required. > > It is propaganda because I say so. It is designed to start a war because I > say so. Jews run Hollywood for Israel because I say so. > > Barrett even goes so far as to quote a joke by comedian (get it, comedian-he > makes jokes) Bill Maher as if it's a serious straightforward factual > comment-replace the word admitted with the word joked and you get a better > picture. > > The leaps in logic continue with Barrett's time-travel reporting: "I watched > Argo on the plane en route to > Iran , where I recently spent > two weeks. The film depicts Iranians as scowling, bearded fanatics > lusting for American blood. When I arrived in Tehran, I was surprised - > well, not really that surprised - to discover that Iranians are > friendly, gracious, smiling, generous people who absolutely love > Americans." > > Let's see, he watches a new movie in 2013 on a plane in 2013 about something > that happened n 1979 and he's surprised to find that what was depicted in > 1979 is not happening in 2013. It's fucking amazing! How did that happen? > 1979 is not 2013? Incredible! It must be a Jewish conspiracy. They're > very good at numbers, you know. > > And actually, the film depicts revolutionaries and a collateral mob storming > the embassy. I didn't really see anyone "lusting for American blood"-perhaps > Barrett's confused Argo with a vampire or zombie movie. As a matter of > fact, I didn't see any "bearded fanatics", just angry people-many rightfully > angry at the U.S. government. But the hyperbole is important to Barrett's > whole argument. Without the hyperbole, the hideous rhetoric, the absence of > logic, the entirely overblown comparison of Affleck to Riefenstahl, why, he > wouldn't have an argument. > > This article is thoughtless, useless. I'll amend my earlier comment: it > doesn't even rise to the level of Crap. And it's a shame it was on this > listserve. > > Not the first time something stupid came from the otherwise necessary Left. > > Oh well. > > Gary > > _____ > > From: mailto:laamn%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:laamn%40yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Romi > Elnagar > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:41 AM > To: LAAMN > Subject: Fw: [LAAMN] Oscar for ARGO: A crime against humanity > > I received this message offlist in response to my post. > > It is not a logical argument IMHO, but may represent what is in the head of > the person who sent it to me, and who is now blocked from my private email > address. > > While there are good and logical arguments to be made against this article, > other people have also agreed with me as far as ARGO being CIA propaganda, > which was my point, and which I have seen expressed elsewhere. Also, if > anyone cared to read the article thoroughly, it is clear the writer had some > personal experience in Tehran. > > Best, > Romi > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: "mailto:gordon.gary2%40gmail.com " > mailto:gordon.gary2%40gmail.com > > To: 'Romi Elnagar' mailto:bluesapphire48%40yahoo.com > >; 'undisclosed recipients:@yahoo.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:16 PM > Subject: RE: [LAAMN] Oscar for ARGO: A crime against humanity > > Crap. > > > ________________________________ > > From:mailto:laamn%40yahoogroups.com > [mailto:mailto:laamn%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf > Of Romi Elnagar > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 > 3:45 PM > To: undisclosed recipients: > Subject: [LAAMN] Oscar for ARGO: A > crime against humanity > > > NOTE: While the following article MAY appear to > be anti-Semitic in nature, anyone who knows the record of tolerance of the > Islamic Republic of Iran towards its own Jewish citizens can see that the > seeming racial hostility in this article is in fact clearly directed towards > supporters of the Zionist state if Israel, which practices genocide against > Arabs every day. If I thought it represented hostility toward all Jews, > including the enlightened ones who decry Israeli racism, I would certainly > not > forward it to you, but when I read it, I felt it expressed exactly and > eloquently my own reaction to ARGO, which is that it is propaganda designed > to > incite Islamophobia and war against Iran . > > In Peace, > Hajja Romi, "Blue" > > Oscar for Argo: A crime against humanity > Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:22PM GMT > 5 > > By Dr. Kevin Barrett > > The only award the makers of Argo deserve is a criminal conviction for > crimes against humanity. Instead, Hollywood 's > Zionist mafia has handed > them an Oscar for best film of the year. The members of the academy > should themselves be in the docket, facing war crimes charges, right > alongside Ben Affleck." > Argo is a propaganda film. Like the films of Nazi publicist Leni > Riefenstahl, it is well-made. Like those of Riefenstahl, it glorifies a > murderous criminal organization. And like those of Riefenstahl, its > ultimate purpose is to elicit hatred and turn its audience into mass > murderers. > > Riefenstahl glorified the Nazi party; Argo glorifies the CIA. > Riefenstahl made Nazi war-mongering and Jew-hatred look beautiful; Argo > makes Zionist-incited islamophobia and iranophobia look natural and > inevitable and desirable. > > Riefenstahl's films helped open the door to World War II, which killed 70 > million people. > > Argo is designed to open the door to war on > Iran and World War III, which could > kill hundreds of millions or even billions. > > The only award the makers of Argo deserve is a criminal conviction > for crimes against humanity. Instead, Hollywood 's > Zionist mafia has > handed them an Oscar for best film of the year. The members of the > academy should themselves be in the docket, facing war crimes charges, > right alongside Ben Affleck. > > But Affleck and the Hollywood mob aren't just > guilty of war crimes. > They are equally guilty of treason against the > United States of America . > > Hollywood , you > see, is a virtually 100% Jewish enclave. > And with a few noble exceptions, the Jewish billionaires who own and run > Hollywood , and determine what kinds of motion pictures > dominate the > world, are rabid supporters of Israel 's > genocide in Occupied Palestine. > Their films should be considered "enemy propaganda" - not just by > Palestinians and their supporters, but by the American people. > Why? Because war on Iran > - as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Chuck Hagel > and all genuinely American strategists have been screaming from the > rooftops - is an Israeli plan, not an American plan. > > The Israelis want to drag America > into wars against their enemies. And Iran > is Israel 's > public enemy number one. > > Israel 's real problem with > Iran isn't > those nonexistent nukes. (Both > the CIA and Mossad have assured us that > Iran is not building nuclear > weapons.) Israel 's problem > is that Iran 's > government offers formidable > ideological and material support to the Palestinian resistance. > > Why is that America 's > problem? > > Because America > is dominated by a powerful, treasonous Israeli fifth > column. As Jewish, pro-Zionist comedian Bill Maher recently admitted, > "The Israelis are controlling our government." > > Argo is enemy propaganda from Israeli-occupied > Hollywood . It is a > slick attempt to brainwash Americans into seeing Iranians as enemies. > Argo seeks to drag the American consciousness back to 1979, when > Iranians overthrew their CIA-installed torturer-in-chief, the Shah, and > sought justice for his decades of misrule. It seeks to hide the fact > that today, America and > Iran should > have good relations - and would have > good relations, if Israel > weren't running US > foreign policy. > > I watched Argo on the plane en route to > Iran , where I recently spent > two weeks. The film depicts Iranians as scowling, bearded fanatics > lusting for American blood. When I arrived in Tehran, I was surprised - > well, not really that surprised - to discover that Iranians are > friendly, gracious, smiling, generous people who absolutely love > Americans. (They have no difficulty making the distinction between the > American people, and the policies of the Israeli-dominated American > government.) > > After being held hostage to their kindness, hospitality, and > generosity for fourteen days, all I can say is that I hope they kidnap > me again soon. > > Most Americans, unfortunately, do not have the opportunity to visit > Iran . > > If you put Mr. Average American on a plane for > Tehran , and showed > him Argo as the in-flight movie, he would probably have a panic attack > and try to kick open the emergency exit door and bail out of the plane. > That, of course, is precisely the kind of reaction the Hollywood > Zionists created Argo to elicit. > > In some ways, Argo is almost like a zombie horror movie, with > Americans as protagonists, and Iranians as evil flesh-eating zombies. > When, in Argo, the small group of Americans visits Tehran's magnificent > Grand Bazaar, only to be surrounded, mobbed, and threatened by vicious > Iranian extremists hungering for their flesh and thirsting for their > blood, I was reminded of nothing so much as the > zombies-in-the-shopping-mall scenes from George Romero's horror classic, > Dawn of the Dead. > > When I visited a bazaar in Tehran > earlier this month, I had a > wonderful time. The scene was lively and colorful. The throngs of > shoppers were enjoying themselves. The sellers were courteous and fun to > haggle with. Maybe they were hungering for my dollars and thirsting for > my coins, but if so, they were reasonably polite about it. I did not > experience any zombie attacks. > > Argo depicts Iran > as a living hell for Americans. But for me and the > other Americans I visited with, it was more like a paradise. > > Americans can live well in Iran > on very little money. The Iranian > rial's value has dropped in relation to the dollar, thanks to the > Zionist banksters' currency war. A can of Coca-Cola or a candy bar costs > a nickle, a gourmet meal can be had for a few dollars, and all sorts of > Iranian-made items are available at bargain prices. (Iranians are > getting very good at making all kinds of products, since the sanctions > have made imports prohibitively expensive.) > > But the best thing about Iran > is its people. There are > no false guides and scammers accosting you, as in some Middle Eastern > countries. Iran 's > people, regardless of philosophical, political, or > religious persuasion, are both dignified and genuinely friendly. They > have overcome the colonialist-imposed schizoid complex of > servility/resentment. Iranians deal with Westerners, including > Americans, naturally and amiably as equals. > When will the American government start treating > Iran on a similar basis of natural > amiability and equality? > > The short answer: As soon as Americans take a lead from Bill Maher, and > shake > off Israel 's > domination of their country. > > When that happens, the makers of Argo, and the other Israeli > occupiers of America 's media > and entertainment industry, may have to > seek refuge in Paraguay . > > http://presstv.com/detail/2013/02/25/290795/oscar-for-argo-a-crime-against-h > umanity/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAAMN: Los Angeles Alternative Media Network --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Digest: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=laamn> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive1: <http://www.egroups.com/messages/laamn> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive2: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! 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