Muffy et al.: Ask[ing] a few folks to show up [at the other event] with immigrant rights signs and flyers and ..." urging them to come to the "main" immiigrants right rally -- and recognizing that doing so could / would "build some kind of bond that would do us all some good in the future is one which has not only been strongly suggested many times, but also applies to the march earlier in the day for "immigration reform" (which starts at noon); usually those coming to the march come for the cause, and not for the half-horrid speeches by reformists and/or certain labor officials, and are quite receptive to different ideas / events. After years of multiple march-rallies in multiple places for the same cause finally there's now two united march-rallies instead of many -- one May 1 which had 8 separate L.A. rallies or march-rallies within 10K of one another. Whether the differences re objectives / politics / speakers, etc. were / are major and important enough to have two separate actions instead of one united one is a debate in itself --- "immigration reform!" is the theme of the early afternoon march, which the AFL-CIO officialdom and reform/iist organizations are publicizing, while a coalition initiated by the Southern California Immigration Coalition has a march-rally (much better / clearer focus on "Full rights for immigrants" among its demands) literally with same starting point and march route (noon and 4 p.m. starting times, respectively) although (nearby and) different end-places. Long before I became radicalized, I learned about news about getting masses of people assembled in ONE place to DEMAND change is one of the most effective ways of not only winning one's objectives, but also putting the issue in the "spotlight" -- and (despite mass media which try to minimize and/or ignore the event/s), the more people, always the more ears and ears pay attention. Even many of those who are not radical are aware that there has been call for a march / rally for immigrants rights in every city with a sizable immigrant population -- ESPECIALLY LOS ANGELES -- (as well as other cities, towns, etc.) every year on May 1 since 2006. So, calls for conflicting / concurrent events caused by non-awareness of calendar-and-scheduling issues does not apply. Immigration coalitions in L.A. Metro's surrounding cities (e.g., Santa Ana and Oxnard) have decided to hold their own events --- PUBLICIZED AS ACTIONS IN SOLIDARITY with the "main" march-rallies, figuring that the time / distance in getting to the main / central rally is too great and that having local events will mobilize more for the cause. I am quite aware of RAC's food giveaways on Sundays at MacArthur Park. Ironically, just this past Sunday, I came to Occupy L.A.'s food-giveaway table in order to place on its table those May 1 publicity leaflets which I had not yet then distributed -- and observed RAC with its food distribution about 50 meters away and (as has been the case for multiple months) NO conflict between either giveaway or the participants in each. (Not giving a bunch-of-leaflets to the RAC at its event is / was a matter of logistics (rows of food-boxes and no table with empty space) rather than any question whatsoever of RAC's willingness to have those leaflets distributed.) -- Barry
--- On Mon, 4/29/13, John A Imani <[email protected]> wrote: From: John A Imani <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAAMN] Fwd: May Day w RAC-LA To: "Freedom Socialist Party LA" <[email protected]> Cc: "Barry Schier" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "LAAMN" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "May 19th Movement" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 1:56 PM Have no idea who this guy is. Nor do I care. Nor do I neither know nor care how it is that he takes it upon himself to decide what the "best" way it is to celebrate both May Day and to remember The Police Riot in MacArthur Park (no quotes) as that is exactly what it was. JAI RAC-LA On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Freedom Socialist Party LA < [email protected]> wrote: > Barry, > > > > Please stop with the lectures. RAC has been feeding the hungry for 6 > years, and they have been doing it in McArthur Park, despite disruptions > from cops, select Occupy LA folks, and general apathy from others. Why not > ask a few folks to show up THERE with immigrant rights signs and flyers and > offer them a ride to the rally if they can get loose for awhile. This > would, maybe, build some kind of bond that would do us all some good in the > future. > > > > In Struggle, > > > > Muffy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Schier ** > Sent: Apr 29, 2013 1:41 PM > To: "[email protected]" **, [email protected], " > [email protected]" **, [email protected], > John A Imani ** > Cc: "[email protected]" **, LAAMN **, " > [email protected]" **, "[email protected]" **, May > 19th Movement ** > Subject: Re: [LAAMN] Fwd: May Day w RAC-LA > > ******** ** > ** > > The "best" way to respond to the "Police Riot in MacArthur Park" > attempting to break up that May 1 Immigrants Rights rally is to re-double > efforts at building this year's mainly working class May 1 Immigrants > Rights rally/s (which are in / near downtown Los Angeles, i.e., 1 to 2 > miles east and northeast of MacArthur Park). Hopefully, it is the your > intention to come to (and build) the march-rally-march (beginning at 4 p.m. > going "up" Broadway from Olympic Blvd.) initiated by Southern California > Immigration Coalition rather than having event event with a time / focus > conflict with the immigrants rights event/s. (There is also another > rally-march-rally with same starting place and almost same route starting > at noon whose participants, especially working people, have had and will > have a far different perspective than those who initiated and/or will be > speaking at the event, i.e., immigration "reform" advocates.) > - Barry > > --- On Mon, 4/29/13, John A Imani <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: John A Imani <[email protected]> > Subject: [LAAMN] Fwd: May Day w RAC-LA > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > [email protected], "[email protected]" < > [email protected]>, [email protected] > Cc: "[email protected]" < > [email protected]>, "LAAMN" <[email protected]>, " > [email protected]" <[email protected]>, " > [email protected]" <[email protected]>, "May 19th > Movement" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 12:29 PM > > > > Comrades, > > The Revolutionary Autonomous Communities-Los Angeles invites all comrades > > to the site of our Food Program from 5 - 8PM on May 1st. > > RAC-LA began its Food Program--now passing out 200 baskets of fresh > > vegetables every Sunday--in Nov 2007 following long discussions between > > comrades as to how to respond to the Police Riot in MacArthur Park. > > Since that time RAC-LA has been at the forefront in organizing ourselves, > > as members of the working class, in our own interests and in constructing a > > non-hierarchical anti-capitalist model of a revolutionary organization. > > Join us and other organizations that we have invited at the place where our > > Food Program is conducted: > > SE corner of Wilshire and Parkview, MacArthur Park (West siide), LA 90057. > > JAI > > RAC-LA > > -- > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ** > > ******** ******** > > -- JAI RAC-LA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAAMN: Los Angeles Alternative Media Network --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Digest: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=laamn> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post: <mailto:[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive1: <http://www.egroups.com/messages/laamn> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive2: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! 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