Director Alex Gibney Responds to ‘We Steal Secrets’ Review Posted at Firedoglake

By: Kevin Gosztola Friday May 24, 2013 3:05 pm  
  
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The following is a response I received from Alex Gibney, director of the new 
documentary on WikiLeaks, “We Steal Secrets.” I have not added any comments to 
this response. It appears unedited as a kind of rebuttal to my review.

I will also take the time to note that, despite my strong criticisms, it is 
worth it to view the film. While it may inform the public of what exactly 
Gibney argues, claims and explores, no transcript of narration or interview 
segments can fully communicate how the stories of Bradley Manning and Julian 
Assange are presented in the film. One has to see the clips, hear the music, 
watch how it all is edited, etc, to fully appreciate the power of this movie.

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Thank you for your balanced review. While you would expect that I don’t agree 
with all of it (I don’t), I do respect the careful attention to detail that you 
have employed on this story. You have my admiration for the careful reporting 
that you have done over the last few years and my appreciation for taking the 
time to engage with my film seriously. Accordingly, I feel that it makes sense 
to send you a response.

1) It is true that Julian did not ask me for $1 million dollars. He asked me 
for money and then said (I took it as a point of negotiation) that the market 
rate for an interview with him was $1 million. I said exactly what happened. 
But the NY Times correction (which was done at my request but was inartfully 
phrased) should not be read to mean that Julian did not want to be paid a lot 
of money for an interview. He did. I’m sure we might have made a deal at, say 
$100,000. But I don’t pay for interviews.

Likewise, your interpretation of what happened next is incorrect. While Julian 
did ask me to seek out details of the criminal investigation, he asked me and 
my producer to give Julian “intel” on all the other interview subjects as a 
quid pro quo for his participation. By “intel” he meant details about their 
testimony and, in some cases, transcripts. That was a non-starter for me and I 
found it an “ironic” stance for someone who is supposed to be so interested in 
source protection.

2) RE: Sweden – You are correct that the purpose of the section was to show 
that the allegations leveled at Assange were not “ridiculous,” which is how 
they were being treated by Assange. You mention the condom and dna. There is 
some doubt as to what condom is pictured on screen, so it seemed pointless to 
add detail about dna. Only some of the testimony and evidence has been leaked. 
There is much to come. Perhaps the Swedish courts will find him innocent of all 
charges. My point was only to show that there is sufficient “cause” for legal 
proceedings—that it wasn’t a joke. The British courts agreed: they stated twice 
that if the allegations were proven, they would be crimes in the UK as well as 
Sweden.

Mr. Fowler’s account of events is incorrect. Alexa O’Brien recently published a 
British court timeline – on which Wiki and Sweden agree! – that makes the 
circumstances surrounding his disappearance and failure to appear look even 
worse. You are also wrong about the process of “interviewing” Assange. (For a 
complete recitation of this, I refer you to my piece in the New Statesman 
responding to John Pilger.) The Swedish prosecutor is prepared to charge 
Assange but cannot do so unless he is “arrested,” which must happen in Sweden. 
The only questioning that the Swedish prosecutor needs to do is to give Assange 
the opportunity to provide information which would prevent her from arresting 
him, which she clearly plans to do (if he ever goes to Sweden.)

The suggestion re: the motivation for JA possibly wanting to make women 
pregnant against their will is not “wildly lunatic.” If a Swedish prosecutor is 
alleging that Assange may have tried to make the women pregnant against their 
will (the basis of a possible charge) is it not relevant to understand his past 
practices?

3) Manning and Assange. You indicate that I asserted that Manning definitively 
spoke to Assange. But I did not. The film clearly states that the address was 
listed under Assange in Manning’s computer. Manning certainly thought he was 
talking to Assange. But the film does not state that as a fact.

4) I feel that your final conclusions about the film are unfair. The film makes 
the importance of the issues of transparency, secrecy and surveillance very 
clear. It is also very clear about Manning’s political motivations. It is also 
untrue to say that I dumped on Assange because he did not give me an interview. 
That is just wrong.

As many reviewers have noticed, Assange is cast in a very good light for most 
of the film.I do think that it is important to reckon with people as human 
beings rather than as political caricatures. In the case of Manning, in 
particular, his flaws and his great strengths – in other words his humanity – 
make his actions all the more powerful. You may feel free to criticize me for 
recognizing and celebrating his humanity. I am not sorry. Manning is a hero in 
this film precisely because – through his own words – we know him, not as a 
propaganda poster, but as a poignant, flawed and inspiring human being.

Best Regards,

Alex

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