Now Cort, You know as well as I do that the terrorists in Syria who are the only ones getting publicity in the Capitalist World, are funded and backed by the Capitalists.
Now Cort, after 2 years of me being on this group your again accusing me of supporting Fascism, while never speaking out when any Pro Corporate Democratic Party operatives post freely here, you that I can recall, you've never found any upset with him, but when I mention US terrorism exported to destroy outbreaks of Democracy, you personally attack me. Your so free with calling others Fascist or Fascist supporters. Discuss the article and my comments, you use the same tactics Mike Hersh uses when he decides to communicate. Now Cort, you might as well also discuss the article and what I discussed instead of resorting to attacking posters instead of the issue I was discussing. read through to the end, you might learn something, like how to spell my name. http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html Scott > Now Scot, you know as I do that their are many in the opposition( most) > both armed and peaceful who get no aid from anyone.It started as peaceful > protest until the Fascist Assad regime started the killing. The many > different outside interventionists, Qatar, Turkey, the Saudis, all hate > each other and support different groups.Whereas imperialist Russia, Iran , > China and Iraq shiites support Assad. After 2 years of mass killings you > still support fascism. > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Well, that's a deadly mistake to make, assuming the major terrorists in >> Syria are Revolutionaries, instead at the very best, only pawns of the >> Capitalist World. >> >> Where as in Syria, the US and the other Capitalists are backing, or even >> organizing the terrorists agasint the Syria government, the Syrian >> Government which is not under already under their control, but instead >> have favored the Soviets. In Turkey those boyo's in Government are in >> the >> Capitalists pockets. >> >> Just like in Egypt and other nations of the world, any break out of >> Democracy will be met with shipments of tear and pepper gas AID to the >> governments and military, much free training at the US torture >> facilities >> at the SOA, so the government can subdue those who dare criticize or >> speak >> out against the profitable Government which is already installed for the >> profits of the Industrialized/Capitalist world. >> >> Scott >> >> > >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-today-kurdish-pjak-leader-threatens-rouhani/ >> > >> > [image: Women Guerrillas of the PJAK] >> > >> > Published on August 19th, 2013 | *by Joanna Paraszczuk* >> > 0 >> > Iran Feature: Kurdish Movement PJAK Threatens President Rouhani with a >> > Second Syria >> > >> > The Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), has >> > warned< >> http://vvanwilgenburg.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/pjak-warns-iran-could-turn-into-another.html >> > >> > President >> > Hassan Rouhani that if Tehran continues military operations against >> > Kurdish >> > forces in Iran, the group will turn Iran into a second Syria. >> > >> > PJAK, affiliated with the Turkish Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), has >> > carried out armed attacks in Irans Kurdistan Provinces since 2004, >> with >> > the aim of establishing an autonomous Kurdish region. >> > >> > In October 2011, the President of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, >> said >> > that the Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Government and the PJAK had agreed >> that >> > Iranian gorup would end its armed activities; however, clashes between >> > PJAK >> > and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps have continued, with deaths >> on >> > both sides. >> > >> > Last week Fars News, close to the Revolutionary Guards, reported >> > that<http://farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13920521000570> an >> > IRGC officer had been killed in border clashes with armed bandits >> a >> > likely reference to the PJAK. >> > >> > Other Iranian media reported in >> > May< >> http://sardasht-ag.ir/tabid/1032/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/27730/-2-------.aspx >> > >> > that >> > two IRGC officers had been killed in clashes with the PJAK, posting >> images >> > of the martyrs: >> > >> > [image: >> > ImageHandler]< >> http://eaworldview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ImageHandler.jpeg> >> > >> > Kurdish political activist Shamal Bashiri said that Tehran was passing >> > through a sensitive stage and Hassan Rouhani is forming a new >> government, >> > and he is not ready to launch a large-scale military operation. >> > >> > Bashiri said that the declaration of a cease-fire with Iran was in >> Kurdish >> > interests, but warned that if Iran proceeded to break the cease-fire, >> the >> > country will see military operations similar to the Syrian war. >> > >> > Analyst Wladimir van Wilgenburg adds another >> > dimension< >> http://vvanwilgenburg.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/pjak-warns-iran-could-turn-into-another.html >> > >> > to >> > the increased tensions between the PJAK and Tehran: >> > >> > *Iran is not happy with the PKK-Turkey talks for a political >> resolution, >> > although Ankara also received the [Syrian Kurdish leaders] Salih >> Muslim >> > [PYD] and Abdulhakim Bashar (KDP-S) recently. Iran wants the peace >> process >> > in Turkey to fail.* >> > ** >> > >> > *The PKK decided in its last meeting to uphold the ceasefire with Iran >> and >> > mostly focuses on Syrias Kurds now.* >> > >> > PJAK has also paid more attention to Syria, amid growing violence >> between >> > Kurdish militias and Islamist insurgent factions in the north of the >> > country. >> > >> > Earlier this month, PJAK said >> > that<http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55312452> it >> > was ready to send fighters to Syrian Kurdistan to fight beside their >> > people. >> > >> > (Featured Images: Women PJAK insurgents at their camp in the mountains >> of >> > the Iran-Iraq border Sebastian Meyer) >> > >> > LATEST: Rouhani Government We Are Facing Serious Budget Shortfall >> > >> > *Jump to Latest >> > Update< >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-today-rouhani-reaches-out-to-gulf-states/#latest >> > >> > * >> > >> > *Press TV reports that Omani leader Sultan Qaboos bin Said, is to >> > visit >> > Iran< >> http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/18/319360/omani-king-to-visit-tehran-next-week/ >> > >> > next >> > week to consolidate Tehran-Muscat ties.* >> > >> > It is no coincidence that the Omani ruler will be the first >> high-ranking >> > official to visit Tehran since President Hassan Rouhani was formally >> sworn >> > into office on August 4. Rouhani has emphasized his plans for Iran to >> > improve relations with the Gulf States and particularly Saudi Arabia, >> with >> > whom he said Tehran has very close relations culturally, historically >> and >> > regionally. >> > >> > During Rouhanis election campaign, his deputy campaign manager >> Morteza >> > Bank told pan-Arab newspaper Alsharq >> > Alawsat<http://www.aawsat.net/2013/06/article55305491> that >> > the Persian Gulf region enjoys a special geostrategic and strategic >> > position in Mr. Rouhanis government and that in order to improve >> > relations with the neighboring countries, Saudi Arabia is Rouhanis >> top >> > priority. >> > >> > Speaking to Mehr News on Sunday about the Omani leaders visit, Deputy >> > Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian referred indirectly to >> Rouhanis >> > desire to improve relations with Gulf States, saying that Tehrans >> > relations with the Persian Gulf countries are based on friendship, >> > brotherhood and mutual trust and that Iran and regional states are >> > determined to upgrade their cooperation in different domains ranging >> from >> > the environment to security. >> > >> > ** >> > >> > Even before Rouhanis election, senior political figures set the stage >> for >> > improved relations with the Gulf States including Saudi Arabia. In >> June, >> > Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi met the Saudi Ambassador in Tehran, >> > saying that he hoped misunderstandings between the two countries >> would >> be >> > cleared up in an appropriate way. In July, during the last days of >> the >> > Ahmadinehad government, Salehi a fluent Arabic speaker whom Rouhani >> has >> > appointed as head of the Atomic Energy Organization showed off a >> gift >> he >> > had received from the Saudi king: >> > Rouhani Government: We Are Facing Serious Budget Shortfall >> > >> > First Vice President Eshaq Jahangiri has >> > said< >> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/iran-faces-one-third-budget-shortfall-report/articleshow/21899823.cms >> > >> > that >> > more than one-third of the [Government] budget is unrealistic and it >> > must >> > be cut to about $45 billion. >> > >> > We face a serious budget shortfall, Jahangiri said. >> > >> > An aide to President Rouhani, Mohammad Baqer Nobakht, told State TV on >> > Saturday night that a revised budget will bepresented to Parliament by >> > mid-September. >> > >> > If the 2013-2014 budget law is revised, the government and the >> country >> > will not face a budget shortfall and resulting inflation, Nobakht >> said. >> > [image: IRAN 17-08-13 ROUHANI ZARIF] >> > >> > Published on August 18th, 2013 | *by Scott Lucas* >> > 1 >> > Iran Analysis: Interpreting a New Foreign Minister & a New Foreign >> Policy >> > >> > Ever since the election of President Rouhani and, behind him, his >> mentor >> > and former President Hashemi Rafsanjani we have been anticipating a >> > shift >> > in Iranian foreign >> > policy< >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-analysis-what-can-we-expact-from-rouhani-government-a-4-point-guide/ >> > >> > to >> > promotion of engagement with other countries, including the West >> and >> > the US. >> > >> > Rouhani has borne out that prediction with statements since his >> > inauguration< >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-today-tehran-continues-push-for-nuclear-talks/ >> >, >> > including Saturdays >> > declaration< >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-today-rouhani-foreign-policy-engagement-while-standing-on-principles/ >> > >> > that >> > people in the June 14 elections declared that they want a new foreign >> > policy. >> > >> > In an interview with the journal Iranian >> > Diplomacy< >> http://www.irdiplomacy.ir/en/page/1919990/US%E2%80%99+Turn+to+Show+Its+Political+Determination.html >> > >> > >> > run by former Deputy Foreign Minister and advisor to President >> Khatami, >> > Sadegh Kharrazi the new Foreign Minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, >> offers >> > further clues: >> > >> > 1. MODERATION WHILE STANDING ON PRINCIPLES >> > >> > Moderation means realism and the creation of balance between the >> > different >> > needs of the country in the advancement of foreign policy and its >> goals >> in >> > the framework of prudent and wise methods and with an appropriate >> > dialogue. >> > Moderation does not mean forgetting the values or leaving the >> principles >> > aside. Moderation does not mean ignoring the rights of the country >> > either. >> > >> > The new Foreign Ministers statement echoes Rouhanis assertion on >> > Saturday >> > made at the welcoming ceremony for Zarif Reconsidering foreign >> policy >> > doesnt mean a change in principles because principles remain >> unchanged. >> > >> > Interpretation? >> > >> > Tehran will be forthcoming in seeking negotiations and dialogue with >> other >> > countries, including the US, but do not expect any concessions for >> > example, on Irans right to enrich uranium or its provision of >> political >> > and military support to Syrian President Assad in advance of those >> > talks. >> > >> > 2. IRANS NUCLEAR PROGRAMME >> > >> > We have had numerous discussions inside the government with the >> President >> > with regard to how we should pursue the nuclear rights of the country >> and >> > remove the oppressive sanctions imposed upon the Islamic Republic of >> Iran. >> > Our basis for work is insisting on Irans rights and removing the >> logical >> > concerns of the international community. As the Supreme Leader and the >> > President himself have reiterated, this is easy provided that the >> > objective >> > is the resolution of the nuclear issue. >> > >> > Interpretation? >> > >> > See above on the principle of the right to enrich uranium in >> addition, >> > Iran will not settle in the talks with the 5+1 Powers for anything >> less >> > than the full removal of major sanctions, including restrictions on >> the >> > energy and financial sectors. >> > >> > And Rouhani and Zarif will ensure that, while they have room for >> manoeuvre >> > on Irans tactics, there is no visible distance between them and the >> > Supreme Leader. >> > >> > 3. ON THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN THE US >> > >> > It seems that the warmongers are concerned about the reduction of >> > problems >> > and are trying their hardest to find an excuse to intensify the >> crisis. >> > The >> > important point is for the decision-makers in Europe and the US to >> > comprehend the nature and goals of the warmongers well and not allow >> the >> > agenda of warmongering and tension-building through oppressive >> pressures >> > on the Iranian people which have no basis in international law to >> > prevent >> > the usage of opportunities which can be used to find a solution. >> > >> > Interpretation? >> > >> > Zarif, echoing >> > Rouhani< >> http://eaworldview.com/2013/08/iran-today-tehran-presses-campaign-for-us-to-get-serious-ease-sanctions/ >> > >> > and >> > other Iranian politicians, is telling President Obama, Stand up to >> the >> > Congress and pursue genuine negotiations including sanctions >> relief, >> > rather than imposition of more economic punishment. >> > >> > If Obama does this, then a deal is possible. >> > >> > 4. BILATERAL TALKS WITH THE US? >> > >> > The Supreme Leader has stated his opinion with regard to these >> > negotiations several times. There is no issue with negotiation itself, >> but >> > the question is what issues will be discussed in these talks and how >> much >> > of a political determination does exist on the other side to resolve >> the >> > problems. >> > >> > Interpretation? >> > >> > See above lets not talk about mechanics first, but about a change >> in >> > the >> > position of the US Administration. >> > >> > 5. THE MIDDLE EAST FROM SYRIA TO EGYPT >> > >> > Due to the mismanagement of certain players, which we have seen >> > especially >> > from outside the region during the past few years, conditions in the >> > region >> > are moving towards chaos and necessitate practical measures by >> everyone >> > involved to contain the crisis. Fundamentalism, on one hand, and >> > forgetting >> > and ignoring the votes of the people, on the other, and, of course, >> the >> > very clear intervention of foreign countries, have inflamed the >> region, >> > the >> > result of which is the killing of thousands of innocent people. >> > >> > Interpretation? >> > >> > A message to the West: pull back from support of the Syrian >> opposition >> > and insurgency otherwise, you are fomenting more bloodshed and >> sectarian >> > violence. >> > >> > And a message to the military and interim Government in Egypt: back >> off >> > from confrontation and engage in political talks, including with the >> > Muslim >> > Brotherhood. >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > LAAMN: Los Angeles Alternative Media Network >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Digest: <mailto:[email protected]> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=laamn> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Post: <mailto:[email protected]> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Archive1: <http://www.egroups.com/messages/laamn> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Archive2: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Yahoo! 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