--- In [email protected], "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "mjmw3" <jeamic@> wrote:
> >
> > I admit, I'm a little paranoid about this, but Hayden is a large
> > labradoodle, 80 pounds, with a very deep chest.
> > I had heard somewhere that there is a surgery that you can have
done
> > that does something to the stomach, preventing bloat.
> > Am I right about this and what are the experinces of others with
this
> > type of dog?
> > Thanks!
> > Michelle and Hayden (the labradoodle Service Dog)
> >
>
> Hi Michell and Hayden, Here are some helpful links on the topic of
> Bloat/gastric torsion.
<http://ladyr.danebytes.com/BLOAT-SIMETHICONE.htm> Also a valuable
sorce of info is Linda Arndt, Canine
> Nutritional Consultant
> <http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/bloat_and_allergies.htm> I
> don't know how much of a concern Bloat/gastic torsion Is with
> our 'doodles but having bred Great Danes for over 15 years, my
Husband
> and I had to deal with it twice as Danes are 76% more likely to get
GVD
> than any other breed. But you're right about the large, deep
chested
> dogs, s/a Labs and Standard Poodles. As a matter of fact, our Vet's
> very first bloat and torsion case right after doing his internship
was
> a male Standard Poodle. Our first incident invovled our oldest
> foundation female (refuse to say the "B" word to describe any of my
> girls!) because both of us were at work when she bloated and
torsed.
> It was too late by the time we got home. The window of time for
> treating this monster is slim, about 3 hours after onset of
symtoms.
> Our second bout with bloat involved our Dear Sweet Petie. We were
very
> lucky we were both home at the time and were able to react fast and
get
> him into surgery asap. Time is of the essence and a good plan of
> action should be well thought out before-hand. Hopefully you'll
never
> have to deal with it but it's important to make yourselves aware of
the
> condition and know the signs and symtoms:
> swollen belly
> excessive drooling
> pale gums
> restlessness
> pacing
> panting
> eating grass like crazy
> nervous
> looking at his/her belly and/or hind end
> attempts at vomiting and/or pooping with no results
> nervous licking and yawning
> walks like he's walking on eggshells with arched back
>
> Know in advance expirenced surgeons/vet hospitals/vet schools in
your
> area. Make sure they are well equiped and well versed in dealing
with
> this type of emergency because this is VERY SERIOUS.
> The proceedure you're referring to is called Gastropexy or stomach
tack
> where they tack the stomach to the adominal wall. My vet spoke of
a
> newly developed technique called a buckle that Texas A&M has been
> working on. I certainly hope you never have to deal with bloat.
We no
> longer breed Danes. We lost our last female to cancer a year ago.
> Sense then we've rescued a 1,1/2 year old Labradoodle called Comet
> (photos of our handsome guy in gallery), he is so very different
from
> our Danes, different in a good way. Still, he's almost a year and
a
> half and weighs 90lbs. So we're not out of the woods by far
regarding
> Bloat/torson issues. Things to concider to help prevent the onset
is
> feeding a good food, low in carbs. Actually a raw diet with added
> enzymes/good bacterias/probiotics would be ideal. I highly
recommend a
> product called N'zymes by Biopet. Our Comet has skin/food allergies
and
> after starting him on N'zymes granuales and Bac-Pak Plus 2 1/2
weeks
> ago, we can see an improvement already. <http://www.nzymes.com/>
This
> sight has loads of info and a real eye opener regarding health
issues
> and concerns. You might want to pick up a copy of 'Natural
Nutrition
> for Dogs and Cats, The Ultimate Pet Diet' by Kymythy R. Schultze,
> C.C.N., A.H.I. a good guild to feeding a raw, natural diet.
Another
> thing we did with our Danes and Comet as well is feeding from
elevated
> food bowls. Some say it helps, some say it doesn't make any
difference
> and some even warn against it.
>
> I do apologize Michelle and to the group for such a lengthy
responce
> but when I see the word bloat in a sentence along with dog, red
lights
> and sirens go off in my head and a heavyness tugs at my heart. I
> sincerely hope you and I and everyone else never, ever has to go
> through that terrible ordeal.
> Kindest Regards,
> Mary and Comet
>
Please excuse the re-send of this reply. Wanted to fix the first
link, a must read.... should have previewed reply first. :-)
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