On 2 January 2014 19:32, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi. > > This proposal is identical to the one issued before christmas, but > based on a suggestion now formulated as a formal VOTE. > > This change in the bylaws [2] requires 2/3 vote +1 of the PMC members. > > VOTE runs until 19 January 2014. > > Vote +1 if you agree to to following change of bylaws: > > > - Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The lab creation > requires PMC lazy concensus, if no PMC sends a mail with -1 to > l...@apache.org within the lazy consensus period, the lab request is > accepted.
The voting period is not stated; I think it probably should be specified. How about: Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of the lab requires a PMC lazy consensus vote (no -1 votes, 72 hours). > from > - Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of > the lab requires a PMC lazy consensus vote > (at least three +1 and no -1, 72 hours). > > > Reasoning: > > The charter [1] and homepage [2] for labs says: > > - Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of > the lab requires a PMC lazy consensus vote > (at least three +1 and no -1, 72 hours). BTW, I've just realised that merely dropping the word "lazy" would have resolved the ambiguity. However, IMO full consensus approval is too strong a requirement. +1 (non-binding) provided the voting period is defined. > However the foundations glossary [3] defines lazy consensus today as: > > *Lazy consensus*(Also called 'lazy approval'.) A decision-making policy > which assumes general consent if no responses are posted within a defined > period. For example, "I'm going to commit this by lazy consensus if no-one > objects within the next three days." Also see Consensus > Approval<http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ConsensusApproval>, > Majority > Approval <http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval>, > and the description of the voting > process <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>. > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > [1] > http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2006/board_minutes_2006_11_15.txt > > > [2] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html > [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org