On 21 January 2014 22:44, Tim Williams <william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:32 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > If you read "How it works", Labs makes the following available:
> >
> >    - a zone
> >    - a virtual host (http://labs.apache.org/)
> >    - three mailing lists:
> >       - labs@labs.apache.org
> >       - comm...@labs.apache.org (this receives the svn commits diffs)
> >       - priv...@labs.apache.org
> >    - a lab registry (a collection of machine-readable descriptors)
> >
> > As far as I can see.
> >
> > - there are no zone
> >
> > - there are not virtual host
> >
> > - the lab registry is merely a directory in svn
> >
> >
> > I hereby propose the following:
> >
> > 1) We remove the mention of zone from the home page
>
> fine.  we use the CMS, you should already have the karma.
>
I think I have.


>
> > 2) We request a labs vm from infra (if the PMC request it with a jira, I
> > can make it)
>
> personally, I'd rather have a standing offer to labs (e.g. effectively
> what the advertised zone was) and only provision it upon first
> request.  As we've seen, no one has asked to use the zone [that you
> note we really don't yet have].  So, I don't see an upside of
> provisioning it without a user nor a downside of lazily provisioning
> it.
>

Once its possible to request labs and get a positive answer, I will request
one :-)

Personally I would prefer to do the setup low priority, instead of
stressing when its actually requested.

I think you can use the old word "with appetite comes hunger", if we have
it, we can show it, if we dont have it committers find other solutions. It
boils down to making the project proactive.


> > 3) We change the homepage to actively use the lab registry (see seperate
> > proposal).
>
> yes, I like this.  i'd cobbled together something that goes doap file
> hunting and keeps updated on status[1] before, but something
> better/more robust would be great I think.
>
> [1] - http://people.apache.org/~twilliams/lab_status.html
>

it was along those lines I was thinking (different sorting).

is the "something" something I could have a look at, and use as base ?

rgds
jan I.


> Thanks,
> --tim
>
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