I'm too far north for the sun to rise in the east in November. :) The sun goes south for the winter, just like a lot of people here. No, no, I'm not saying it *rises* in the south, but it does rise distinctly "south of east". And as for overhead -- no, no, here in the north it's much lower in the sky as we head into winter. If I face west, at noon if I look straight up, I see sky. To see the sun (well, assuming we don't have a thick gray cloud layer) at noon in the northern winter, if I am facing west, I have to turn my head to the left. The only time I am going to see the sun straight overhead at noon is the vernal (spring) and autumnal equinoxes. At the two extremes, in the winter at the solstice, the sun "souths". On the summer solstice, it is to the north at noon.
Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com I might not know left from right without checking my thumb, but I can tell you where the sun is! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
