On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 23:12 US/Eastern, Nicole Gauthier wrote:
You are right, Tamara, Punto Fiandra di Gorizia is not Flanders. They call the flander stitch the ribbon formed with 3 pairs of bobbins.
So, er, *how* do you make a "ribbon" with only 3 pairs? <g>
You can't have a "straight" (sewing) footside... That requires 3 *work* pairs; that's why the *skinniest* tenstick has to have 4prs (1 ppr)...
You could work the 3 prs continuously, pinless (done that, in my Partridge in the Pear Tree), but then you have nothing to make your sewings *into*; you get a straight (more or less, depending on tension <g>) braid which resembles what we used to call "siutaz" (sutache? soutache?)...
So, I'm guessing -- it's 2 passives and one worker, which turns around pins on both sides?
How do you make turns with that kind of combination? How do you make sharp points? How do you make the fillings? "On the go", as in Russian (but, then, *with what*??? There're no spare pairs to "let out" <g>), or by adding pairs later on, on the "need" basis (as in Bruges, Duchesse, Honiton)? What's the title/author (etc) of the book you're using? Does it speak English? Are there pictures of the lace anywhere to be seen?
I've always had a fondness for "braid" laces which can be achieved with few -- up to 20 -- pairs (quite different -- though equally strong -- from my fondness of the laces which require *gobs* <g>), so I'm fascinated by this one; I've never even *heard* about it, much less seen it...
Please, "tell all"???
And, if you can't respond before Friday evening, would you *please* Cc the message to me personally, as well as posting to the list? I'll be unsubcribing (eventually <g>) and although I have the archives bookmarked by now and can track what'd gone on in my absence, the possibility of missing what I most want to see is too great to contemplate with equanimity... :)
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