>>>From: Linda Greyling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Taking a workshop class or course we expect to learn, but what does the
different names suggest .  Does it influence your choice?  Should the name
reflect the content?<<<

I think of a workshop as being short-term; an hour, a day, at most a
weekend.  Courses I think of as being longer; a week minimum, often a
repeating time like once a week.  However, the terminology has no effect
whatsoever on my decision to take it.  I look at the actual stated time
involved.


>>>So should one expect to finish a project in a workshop?<<<

That depends so much on the lacemaker.  I rarely, if ever, finish in a
workshop.  Some of my friends often finish.  I think it's a good idea for a
workshop to be reasonably compact.  All the techniques needed for the
project must be shown during the workshop, and most of the class should be
nearly to the point where a technique is to be used before that technique is
shown.  Otherwise, they won't remember it when they need to use it.


>>>If you take a course should you expect some preparation and homework  to
achieve the goals of the course?  How up-front should the students and
teachers expectation be?<<<

At the least, I like to have my pricking covered with plastic and pricked,
and we need to have our bobbins wound.  This means we need to get the
pricking in advance, with information on how many bobbins and what kind of
thread.  As for homework, there often isn't much time in a workshop.  The
class goes till dinner time on Saturday, then we take the teacher out to a
restaurant, which means I may not get home till 8 or 9 that night and I have
to get up early the next morning to get back to class.  This only leaves a
couple of hours for homework.  Unpacking the pillow and arranging the
bobbins, then packing everything up again, takes a chunk of that time.  I
get maybe an hour of lace done Saturday night of a workshop.

For a class (weekly or monthly meetings), homework is important.  I may not
remember what I was doing if I don't work on it between meetings.  And if
the material is so boring that I don't want to do it between class meetings,
then I shouldn't be bothering to take the class.


>>>I often think a class is there to frustrate the teacher. You come
unprepared, do no homework before the next class and expect the teacher to
work miracles towards your finished project.<<<  

I have seen some students like that, and they are not the ones the teacher
becomes a teacher for.  Teachers teach because of the ones that went home
and did 3 yards of the pattern because they were so excited about it.

>>>I am a bit surprised that I have not been kicked out of my once a month
Saturday classes as added to the above I often keep the other students from
their work.  <<<

If this is true, then you are doing a disservice to the teacher and the
other students.  However, if you go and get very little done without
preventing other students from getting what they need from the class, then
by all means go.  What you get from the time may not be finished lace, but
that doesn't mean you didn't get your money's worth from it.

just my opinion
Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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