On May 22, 2004, at 20:00, Carolyn Hastings wrote:
I wouldn't think that the garment in question is either "waistcoat" or
"vest" (depending on your side of the pond) since it has very short sleeves.
I think it is a short sleeved jacket. "Waistcoat" or "vest" to me denotes
sleeveless.
To me too, but (here comes my Libra and the "straddle the fence" attitude <g>)... It's hard to determine whether "the garment in question" has real sleeves or simply over-extended - "drooping", as it were - shoulders. I like my T-shirts oversized and, if I were to remove the (set-in) sleeves, the overall effect would be much the same. I have a (woollen) "vest" which I got in Poland long time go, which is constructed on the same principle as "the garment in question", though on purpose - the shoulders drop partway over the arms, forming what I think used to be called "muscle sleeves" (exposing part of the biceps) or "French sailor sleeves". Neither sleevless, not sleeved, IOW... It was sold as a "vest" (kamizelka), and that's how I wear it: with a long-sleeved shirt underneath. I'd never wear a *short-sleeved jacket* the same way; I'd make sure that I'd wear either a sleeveless blouse underneath it ("tank top"), or one with sleeves no longer than those of the garment...
I had no trouble, therefore, accepting the garment's description as being a "waistcoat"... Where I got stuck was on the "translation"; "waistcoat" is UK and "vest" is US, but both mean the same thing to me; a "jacket" does not...
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