At 11:53 PM 10/20/04 -0500, palmhaven wrote:

>. . . I have never tried to tat with a
>needle.  Is it easier than with a shuttle.  

"Needle tatting" and "tatting with a needle" are unrelated activities.  

When tatters were struggling to invent what bobbin lacers call "sewings" and
tatters call "joins" -- no Arachne mailing list in those days, so they had
to re-invent the wheel -- one early trick was to tat with a needle or a fine
netting needle that could be passed through a picot.  Tatting with a needle
went out of style as soon as someone realized that you can draw a loop of
thread through a picot and pass the shuttle through it, but like all
obsolete techniques, tatting with a needle still has its uses.  (I don't
know what current tatters are doing with needles, but you should see what
they are doing with false tatting, now called "split tatting".)  (More
precisely, a "split" chain or ring is half tatting and half false tatting.)

Needle tatting, on the other hand, is a form of needle lace that can be
worked in the air, without being couched down to a support.  Stitches are
cast onto a needle that is then used to draw a thread through the stitches
to make chains and rings.  If the stitches cast on are alternating half
hitches, needle tatting can produce an exact duplicate of tatting, hence the
name.  

The name is rather unfortunate, since it leads many needle tatters to
restrict themselves to imitating tatting.   

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