Needless to say, I agree too.  It's really quite amazing how frequently I end up
agreeing with Tamara <g>

Weronika

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:05:57PM -0400, Aurelia Loveman wrote:
> Well, I do agree completely with Tamara, both as to "lacers" vs. 
> lacemakers; and also that maybe it's time to think again about 
> changing the name (IOLI vs ??). Perhaps if we took a vote now, 
> opinions on the subject might fall differently than how they did 25 
> years ago. --  Aurelia
> 
> 
> 
> >That might have been the *intention*, but you-know-what is paved 
> >with good ones... :) If "old lace" is meant, why not say so? Like 
> >Jacquie, I too read it as "old lacemakers", especially with so many 
> >people saying "lacers" (personally, not my favourite term <g>) 
> >instead of "lacemakers".
> >
> >Besides, even if one *did* see the name in terms of old *lace* 
> >(rather than old *lacemakers*), or the name was changed to represent 
> >the meaning better, it would still be inaccurate. Might have been OK 
> >52 yrs ago, when the organisation was started, and when most of the 
> >membership concentrated on studying, reproducing and collecting old 
> >lace. But that's not true anymore; a lot of us - Aurelia and Jane 
> >included - study the old lace techniques in order to push them 
> >further, into new shapes. So, it's mosly *new* lace that you see in 
> >the Bulletin, and even in the study box an occasional modern piece 
> >makes an appearance.
> >
> >By labelling ourselves - voluntarily - as "old lacers", we're sawing 
> >the branch we're sitting on, if we want to get young people 
> >interested in perpetuating the craft/art; the label only adds to 
> >their preconceived ideas of lacemaking as something that grannies 
> >*used* to do...
> >
> >IMO.
> >--
> >Tamara P Duvall                            http://t-n-lace.net/
> >Lexington, Virginia, USA     (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
> >
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            Weronika Patena
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