On Oct 16, 2005, at 0:50, Jenny Brandis wrote:
While surfing this morning I came across this pattern and immediately
thought of the tatters who are also lace makers
Jenny, you know I love you, so THIS IS NOT A FLAME.
This said, I think this division - "tatters" on the South Pole and
"lace makers" on the North Pole (and the twain shall never meet) is one
of the major problem-generators we have on this list, with the
Christmas exchange being the most recent flare-up on the subject.
Seems to me that _most_ (though by no means _all_) of North America (US
and Canada) thinks of "lace" as "anything fine, fancy, with lots of
open spaces". By which definition, tating _is_ lace... as is crochet
and knitting (and Batternberg, and Romanian Point, and Carricmacross,
and Liers, and... which are less often "questioned"), _as long as_ they
meet that definition; knit or crochet for warmth (with all the stitches
huddling together) and it's not lace; open it up, and it is.
OTOH, most of Europe thinks that "lace" is limited to bobbin and needle
made, thus relegating "all other" - especially tatting, knitting and
crochet - to a less exalted place in lace-life. UK seems to "sit on the
fence" on the subject, but then UK, quite often, seems to have a "split
identity" (quite like Turkey and Russia <g>) as to belonging/not
belonging to Europe... :)
So, um... I know that US is not the "flavour of the month" in the world
(Europe and beyond), and hasn't been since March of '03... But we are,
I think, doing something right, when we're being inclusive on the
matter of what's "lace" and what's shoved into a doghouse. So, give us
- and yourselves - a break (and a brake)?
I have a piece of tatting - a 6.5" (16.5cm) round doily made in 50/2
(machine-sewing) cotton - which is far more lacy (including the
proportions of "thick and thin") than most of my own designs. How can
it, possibly, be termed "and tatting", rather than "lace"???
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Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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