In a message dated 10/25/2005 10:12:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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(Some) women are just as competitive as (some) men; attend a meeting 
of a  prospective fiber group (or any other group), and the very first 
thing  that's talked about is determining the pecking order - president, 
vice  president, other officers... 
Maybe things are different in Virginia, but in the groups I have belonged  
to, the biggest incentive for good attendance is that if you are absent you  
might find you were nominated for and voted into the presidency. There is a 
lace  
group in New Jersey that has had to change its by-laws about term limitations 
so  that the same person can continue to serve as president until someone is 
born or  inducted into the group who will take the gavel. As noted, before, 
the Lace  Guild folded because no one would become president. My EGA can't fill 
any of its  officerships. It has resorted to asking people to "share an 
office", ie. be  co-president, on the theory, I guess that the other 
co-president 
will do the  work and take the criticism. Our last EGA president was made 
president within  about three months of joining the group.  
 
 I once heard a man speaking with great enthusiasm of "running" for  vice 
president of his Jaycees. I was astounded since vice presidencies in the  
groups 
I belong to are regarded in the same light as prison sentences. Sometimes  
someone will go to one with an air of resignation, rather than a fight, but no  
one ever campaigns for one. 
Or perhaps what you meant by pecking order is that the president is at the  
bottom of the pecking order? 
 
Devon

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