I would caution any brand new learner not to use both books at the same 
time. Both are good, (the Torchon book being my favorite), but because 
Southard's book is slightly different - it could cause much confusion in 
a new learner who doesn't have a teacher close by.
I'm speaking from experience - I'm self-taught and tried to use both 
books. I know others who tried to switch back and forth and gave up 
bobbin lace all together because of it. I was just too stubborn to give up!
Tonnie McB
 in Phoenix, AZ, USA

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>>>But the Torchon Workbook is quite good. I would also recommend the
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>>Doris Southard book - there are many pleasant little laces in it, and
>>even though her working method differs slightly from some of the
>>others, it all comes out looking like lace, and the movements are the
>>same.
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>These are also the two books I've most often heard people learning from 
>("The Torchon Lace Workbook" and Doris Southard's book).
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>Robin P.
>Los Angeles, California, USA
>(formerly  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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