Hi Tamara!
Lordy, it thrills me to have an answer for you after all these years and years
of soaking up your gems of wisdom!! My particular knowledge comes from having
drifted toward the Northern European and Continental laces...
One of my favorite book purchases in the past year or so has been "Kant in de
Gouden Eeuw", one of those stellar volumes produced by LOKK in the Netherlands.
The book is a celebration of 25 years of LOKK (the National Organization Lace
Arts Netherlands), and is written in three languages - Dutch, German, and
English.
The title translates, "Lace in the Golden Age". The chapter on collecting
further indicates that the subject of the entire book is "the development of
lace in the 17th century". Interestingly, the laces shown in the beginning of
the book date from the 1600s... but are shown primarily to give a foundation
for the laces that came after 1700. It is the laces of the 1700s that are the
primary focus of this book.
So does that make everything clear as mud to you? Evidently, "Eeuw" is a word
which means the century which is represented by the first two digits!!
Clay
who is absorbed, once again in this lovely book!!
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From: Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Gentle Spiders,
>
> I've been chipping away at my catalogue of lace books. It's a slow and
> tedious job, so I only put in a few books every couple of weeks or so.
> At this rate, I'll probably finish it on my 100th birthday, 42.5 yrs
> hence :)
>
> In describbing the contents of one of the books, I came accross a
> puzzle recently. It's in Nina Andries' "Onder de loep", and concerns
> the dating of the laces.
>
> The book is in 3 languages: Dutch (Flemish), German and English. And
> the same pieces are dated as follows:
> Dutch: 16de-17de eeuw
> German: 16.-17. Jahrhundert
> English: 16th-17th century
>
> OK. I don't know Dutch, or the custom regarding dating, so don't know
> what hides under the "16de eeuw".
>
> But I do know the English custom (which is the same as Polish) and in
> English, 16th century means years starting with 1501 and ending with
> 1600. Or, possibly, starting with 1500 and ending with 1599; I always
> get confused about that. At any rate, most of the years within the 16th
> century will have 15 at the beginning ("the better to confuse you,
> m'dear", said the big, bad wolf).
>
> German, on the other hand... As far as I know, German follows the
> logical path so, "16 Jahrhundert" are the years *starting with 16*, not
> 15.
>
> Hopefully, Ilske will correct me if I'm wrong. But, if I'm not wrong,
> then the labelling is "off" here. "2/4 (which I take to mean second
> quarter) 17. Jahrhundert" would cover 1725-1750 (our 18th century).
> "2/4 17th century" would cover 1625-1650 (German 16. Jahrhundert). A
> hundred years' difference, yet those labels are describing the same
> piece of lace...
>
> So, which is it?
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> Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/
> Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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