Hi Mary,

Your untrained eye is picking up on the fact that both Tonder and Bucks are 
point ground laces.  There are many regional variations of this kind of lace, 
due to the fact that as a lace form became popular (and lucrative), the lace 
was imitated, with slight variations depending on the lacemaker or designer.  
AND, in some instances, as political and religious events forced lacemakers to 
flee their homes of origin, they took with them their skills and equipment, and 
continued the traditions they knew in their new homes (gradually "morphing" to 
a regional style).  Most lace historians agree that the English laces (Honiton, 
Bucks, Beds, etc...) were derivatives of laces brought to England by persons 
fleeing persecution.  But it is much more difficult to say which laces on the 
mainland were "original", and which were "inspired by...".  

In 2001, a book was published by OIDFA which contained the input of many 
learned scholars and teachers in numerous (although not comprehensive) versions 
of Point Ground Lace.  This has proved to be a valuable part of my own library. 
 Unfortunately, it is no longer in print, but I believe work is underway to add 
to this study.  In the 2001 study, the contributors have defined the 
characteristics of their particular lace with regard to essential components... 
 terminology;  execution of key stitches such as gimp work, picots, headside, 
footside, etc.; threads (size, color, material); groundwork; and prickings.    

A beginning lacemaker can make a happy piece of lace from a Point Ground 
pricking with techniques she has learned from any of the disciplines of PG 
laces.  An intermediate or advanced student of one of these disciplines will 
want to be sure to attend to the details that make this lace unique to other PG 
laces.  

Just remember...  as you're enjoying your exploration of various lace styles, 
there are no "Lace Police" (and this point has been emphasized on this list 
numerous times!!).  The only time you need to strictly adhere to form is when 
your lace is to be submitted to competition or when you're trying to faithfully 
reconstruct a particular piece and/or style.

You've got a good eye!  And your instincts seems to be good too...  so carry 
on, and ENJOY!!

Clay

--
Clay Blackwell 
Lynchburg, VA USA 


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> I am mostly familiar with Torchon but I'm throwing out a question: 
> Is Tonder related to Bucks in any way? My untrained eye seems to see a 
> similarity. 
> Mary in Ann Arbor 
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