Jean Nathan schrieb:
Alice wrote:

<It is not legal to sell lace made from a copyrighted pattern without the permission of the designer.>

I thought it was illegal to sell the pattern, not the finished lace. The design is the copyright of the designer, but the finished lace made by you isn't unless it's a kit sold by the designer.

Dress, knitting and other patterns are copyrighted too, so that would mean that you couldn't, for example, knit a sweater for someone and charge them for your time and materials.

Any copyright experts on the list?
Not an expert, but just now dealing wir the German law. Copyright is always a big thing for lacemakers and as I design pattern, I wanted to know what it is about. The German copyright says (my translation, not seen through by a lawyer), it "protects the designer’s relationship ... to his design. It secures at the same time an appropriate payment for the utilization of his work.” It also says, that the author decides if, how and in which way his work may be published. - This may affect exhibitions as well. Copyright law mostly deals with authors of books and music, but it is - as long as I know - the only law we can deal with. I am interested to hear other opinions.
If someone wants to read the complete German text:
<http://bundesrecht.juris.de/urhg/BJNR012730965.html#BJNR012730965BJNG000801377>

By the way, I remember a process in Austria, some years ago, known as the "Häkelblumenmassaker" ("crotchetflower-massacre" in lack of a better translation). A designer drew crotchet pattern for 3-D-flowers and sold the pattern to needlework shops. Some of these shops used the pictures of the crotcheted flowers in order to advertise the pattern. A clever lawyer and the designer (not so clever, I think) sued these shops for illegaly using the fotos and they won. They earned a lot of money.

But I think, law is not the only aspect on copyright. It has as well to do with respect and a kind way to deal with one another. Of course it annoys me, when a group of lacemaker stands in front of me and discusses who will be the first to copy my design. And, when I think about it, I am not amused, if someone works my pattern and earns money with it.
Can we compare it to "Mr Addidas" who fights the copying of his shoes?

Gabriele Kister-Schuler

Die Klöppelkiste
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<http://www.kloeppelkiste.de>
Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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