When I first learned BL linen stitch and whole stitch were interchangeable.
 
CT was half stitch
CTC was linen stitch or cloth stitch or whole stitch
CTCT was double half stitch

Double half stitch made. sense, but whole stitch for CTC seemed most illogical.
When I started teaching I made sure I used 
CT=half stitch
CTC = cloth stitch
CTCT = cloth & twist (or double half)

If there is any doubt it's best to use the CT order, though of course books, 
and especially the older ones, will use whatever the author used.

The other grey area is grey area is rose ground.
Nowadays we usually think of that as a form of five-hole, cane, cinq-trous or 
whatever.
Some older books refer to what we now think of as honeycomb ground or 
Scandinavian ground with (long rows and gap rows) as Rose ground.  Add to that 
the confusion of names like maiden's net or virgin ground....

Brenda

On 28 Mar 2010, at 09:58, [email protected] wrote:

> And you most likely won't as linen stitch is the continental version of 
> cloth stitch (ctc) - elegantly logical as both produce a plain woven cloth or 
> linen fabric, and they use whole stitch for tctc (ctct).
> 
> As far as I know it is only the UK lacemakers who insist on using cloth and 
> whole stitch as synonymous terms.  Elsewhere there is a clear distinction 
> between cloth/linen stitch and whole stitch, which as it's name suggests is 
> two half stitches - also very logical and surely less confusing for learners. 

Brenda in Allhallows
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