Thanks for your reply Jane.    I think I'm narrowing down my options now.
There is an Au ver a Soie D'Alger in Brenda's book, I just missed it on my
first search.   And I have some truly beautiful hand dyed silk from South
Africa called "Chameleon" which I bought here in Australia - the base of
this is Soie D'Alger  (www.chameleonthreads.co.za/  - have a look at the
wonderful colours under "kits").

The 150 denier silk (doubled) is not for gimps, it's added as the single
worker and a centre passive thread in the different coloured leaves.  The
book is not the Cluny de Brioude published a couple of years ago, it's a
relatively new book (I bought mine through Barbara Fay in Germany) and
called Cluny de Brioude dentelle polychrome, and is mostly motifs and
jewellery, no edges.  Thanks for the tip that doubled is the same as 300
denier.

The Soie D'Alger is spun silk, not reeled, and I've used it before making
leaves - it doesn't spring like reeled silk (or rayon) and makes quite
acceptable leaves (my standard, that is, I can't hope to replicate the
beautiful leaves in the book!)

Noelene in Cooma
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> 
> Denier is a definite sizing unit, so any 150 denier silk should measure
> the same as another.  If it says use double, then you are looking at a
> 300 dnr thread equivalent - Pipers do a gimp of this thickness if I
> remember correctly. Sounds as if it is to give a gimp effect, to give
> the centre stem of the leaf a more real look, so you could look at the
> difference in a real leaf and go from there to see what you think looks
> right visually.

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