Nicky writes: , would the Native Americans have been using what are quite clearly English East Midlands bobbins? One of which looks to have been made by one of the Compton's.
There are a couple of photos of the Native American lacemakers, http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10378429&catirn=10423601&; return= Also, http://www.trc-leiden.nl/trc-needles/index.php/component/k2/item/9925-sybil-c arter-indian-lace-association They seem to be using Continental style bobbins in these photos. I wonder why the dealer thinks that the bobbins were used by Native Americans? Is there some provenance to indicate this? Or is it on the basis of the decoration? Considering the legions of English Midland bobbins in England, the location of these particular bobbins, and the home of a much, much larger bobbin lace making heritage, why would these be associated with Native Americans? Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nicky Hoewener-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:32 AM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Bobbin Lace and Native Americans Hello Brian & Carol Interesting question and reply, clearly there is evidence of Native Americans making lace, but perhaps more relevantly, would the Native Americans have been using what are quite clearly English East Midlands bobbins? One of which looks to have been made by one of the Compton's. By the way, I do think the asking price of B#242 is utterly ridiculous. Nicky in Suffolk Uk Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 01:31:35 -0700 From: Carol <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [lace] Bobbin lace and Native Americans Hello Brian, Sorry, you will have to eat your words. Sybil Carter, an Episcopal missionary, is the name of the woman who began teaching bobbin lace to women of the Ojibwe tribe in Minnesota. The women were taught how to make other laces as well. According to what I've read they made a very high quality lace. Minnesota is considered a Great Plains state. There was an Indian School in Phoenix AZ and according to a display at the Heard Museum in Phoenix they did teach bobbin lace to the girls at this school so bobbin lace was not confined to the Great Plains. Some of the tribes in the Arizona area would have been the Hopi, Papago, Tohono O'odham, Apache, and Chiricahua. According to some Indian Affairs reports in 1901, in New York (state) there were Native American women making bobbin lace. Best regards, Carol Melton West of Phoenix, AZ USA http://tinyurl.com/jvaccul <http://tinyurl.com/jvaccul> http://www.mnopedia.org/group/sybil-carter-indian-lace-association <http://www.mnopedia.org/group/sybil-carter-indian-lace-association> - To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [email protected]. For help, write to [email protected]. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [email protected]. For help, write to [email protected]. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
