YES! I agree with you Lorelei! I am very dubious of any attribution of a date earlier than 19th C to any lace with the braided grounds of modern Val. I think it is very likely that pre-19th C Val wasn't differentiated from Binche. In the first half of the 19th C, Val and Binche morphed into the versions we see today. I have a piece of what looks like 18th C Binche or even earlier, except that it has arcs of tallies as in the later "fairy lace" version of Binche, so maybe Binche started to develop as a distinct lace somewhat earlier. It is a recent purchase on eBay--I will post a picture on Flickr when I get my act together.
Nancy Connecticut, USA On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Lorelei Halley <lhal...@bytemeusa.com> wrote: > ... I think the lace we commonly refer to as Valenciennes, the Val style, > dates > from the end of the 19th and early 20th c. I am not sure that any 18th c > Val > looked like the Val we usually think of. Lace was made there, but it used a > great variety of grounds, not the 4 strand ground that we think of as Val. > That latter ground seems to be attached to the late 19th ce-early 20th > version... > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
