I would be interested in joining the work group on S and Z bobbins and 
winding bobbins.

In 2010 I wrote a small book on the structure of threads for lace.

Jeri reviewed it on Arachne at the time.

This is a fascinating, sometimes difficult and important topic not 
generally understood.

The amount of twist in the thread is crucial.

  * If it is too tightly twisted the thread may be difficult to work
    with  (it curls up on itself) and the resulting lace/textile tight
    and undesirable.

  * If is not twisted enough the thread lacks strength and may break.

The direction of twist is often changed in the process working  - this 
is usually the crucial point rather than  the direction of twist is in 
the first place.

My book covered several aspects.

I it gave the usual diagrams of S and Z along with cabled thread.

2 it looked at the*direction of twist of the threads used for lace 
today*.  It included the information in Brenda Paternoster's book and 
what I saw when I looked at the thread collection of a lacemaker and 
what was being sold at the moment here.

The bobbin lace threads varied a good deal  - 2S 2Z 3S and 3Z.

Even *within a particular brand and size of thread some spools were S 
and others were Z finished *

For example Kantklosgaren Egyptisch Katoen No 31 included some which 
were 2S and others 2Z

Also Presencia Finca Bollilos No 80 had some 3Z and also 3S.

There is a one A4 page listing the threads and the direction of twist.

3  I showed how most Z finished crochet thread overtwists in the process 
of working.

4 When I crocheted test samples with a range of crochet threads of 
similar size but different structures (3S 3Z 2S and 2S/3Z) there was 
little effect of the direction of twist. *However I avoided any change 
in the amount of twist by working with a short length of thread and 
taking the thread off the side of the ball.*

5 diagrams of what happened to the amount of thread with twisted ribbon 
on a spool when

a taken off the side of the spool (no change)

b taken off the top or bottom of the spool (either an increase or decrease)

(I found this twisted ribbon way of illustration  used by Jean Leader to 
be very good)

6 I wondered why Z finished threads came on the scene.  The old laces 
were made with S-finished thread (the traditional situation with linen 
becauseof the particular properties of the linen fibres).  Rosemary 
Shepherd had advised the use of S-finished thread for bobbin lace.

I found a book chapter written by Philip Sykas which mentioned the 
change from S  to Z finish in sewing thread, possibly towards the end of 
the 1800s.  It was done to overcome the untwisting and breaking of the 
needle thread in certain sewing machines (among other things).  The use 
of Z finished thread is essential in modern sewing machines.  (Philip 
Sykas is  an experienced and well respected textile expert at Manchester 
Metropolitan University)

I suggested that the change in lace thread followed the change in the 
sewing thread.

Sewing thread is a huge market whereas that for lace thread is much much 
smaller.

My self published book /Structure of threads for lace/ is still 
available from me for $A12 plus postage.  See my webpage 
www.crochethistory.com/books.

Lacis (www.lacis.com) also stocks it at a rather high price.

There is a lot of detail in this post but it seems necessary

Barbara Ballantyne

in sunny Sydney, Australia


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