Hi,
Didn't we relax the localization requirement as per the discussion we
had in 2012, initiated by Eric and documented at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy ?
It does not really say any minimum percentage, just says "There is a
continuing effort to translate the MediaWiki interface into that
language".
What do you propose? I see gom-deva has 594 messages translated, 286 to
be translated.
It seems there is good activity at incubator and I happened to see a
user with 10000 edits there
Thanks
Santhosh
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:59 PM, MF-Warburg <[email protected]>
wrote:
Wait a second...
so we want to approve a gom-deva.wikipedia.org with the Devanagari
articles from Incubator?
But, the most-used messages are not yet translated
<https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=core-0-mostused&language=gom-deva&filter=!translated&action=translate>
(51%) currently.
2015-03-11 15:18 GMT+01:00 Santhosh Thottingal
<[email protected]>:
Ok, Since we do not have any disagreements, as per our usual
process, I will inform board about the decision that we approve
Konkani wikipedia with Devanagari script
Thanks
Santhosh Thottingal
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi,
I am a long time proponent for this. So yes PLEASE
Thanks,
Gerard
On 7 March 2015 at 07:49, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]>
wrote:
I have no inhibitions or restraints against making the
Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia live.
As far as I understand, current policy is to discourage
communities from having separate wikipedias for different scripts
of the same language. However, I'd be happy to see Konkani-Latin
and Konkani-Kannada on the incubator. A decision can then ensue
whether these projects then become subpages of the
Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia (for example like Suebian, Allemannic
etc on the Southwestern Germanic dialect wikipedia), or whether
WMF makes an exception in allowing separate wiki spaces for those
three scripts. Such a later decision, imho, does not prevent a
live wikipedia for the Devanagri script at this point in time.
Best wishes,
Oliver
On 07-Mar-15 8:05 AM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote:
Shall we make a decision on this? Community is waiting and they
pinged me. I am all for approving this.
Is there any more concerns we need to address?
Thanks
Santhosh
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Santhosh Thottingal
<[email protected]> wrote:
Vishnu clarified the request details in the below mail I quoted.
(it came as moderation request to me, but I don't see it in
approval queue. weird )
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Vishnu <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:32:27 +0530
Subject: Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani
Dear Santhosh, MF-Warburg and other LangCom members,
Yes, the current request from the Konkani Wikipedia community is
to make the Konkani Wikipedia live in the *Devanagari script*.
It has been mentioned in the request page on Meta and I have now
highlighted it.[0]
Of course, the community also wants the LangCom to consider
incubating separate Konkani Wikipedia projects in Romi (i.e.
Latin script) and Kannada scripts - two other popular variants
of Konkani. This will ensure that the rich diversity of Konkani
language and the knowledge in all these three major script
variants will flourish along with the associated communities.
If I may be allowed, I would like to bring to the notice of the
LangCom members that CIS-A2K[1] has been putting focussed
efforts on Konkani Wikipedia and has managed to nurture and grow
a volunteer community that is now sustainable.
The multiple scripts (Konkani is written in 5 scripts) has been
a great challenge to understand and work with, especially when
each script variant is tied to specific religious and regional
community and has significant variations. We have left no stone
unturned in objectively finding a practical solution to this
multiple script issue, including a script converter. In this
process we have consulted Konkani Wikipedians, Konkani
linguists, professors from Konkani Department at Goa University,
Konkani cultural experts, bureaucrats in the government, media
personnel and arrived at the conclusion of having separate Wiki
projects for each of the three script variants (i.e. Devanagari,
Romi (Latin) and Kannada).
We have also requested Fr. Pratap Naik [2] a notable linguist,
who has worked on all the script variants of Konkani language
for many years to give his expert opinion in writing, which is
available here [3]. This note has been widely circulated and
everyone, including the currently active Konkani Wikipedians
(majority of which edits in Devanagari variant) believe that
having three Konkani Wikipedias for the three script variants is
the way to go.
*May I reiterate that the current request is to only make the
Konkani Wikipedia, in Devanagari, live.*
It's been a huge personal learning for me about this rich
language and culture and I have some intimate context [4] on the
multiple scripts issue and would be happy to answer questions if
the committee has any. I am reasonably positive that we will see
three active Konkani Wikipedias soon. Having the Devanagari one
live will only create a healthy competition.
Thanks,
Vishnu
CIS-A2K, Programme Director
[0]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkani_2
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Konkani
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratap_Naik
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Konkani_Wikipedia
[4] http://www.sfxkutamuae.com/news.asp?id=8698 (I have since
then been invited to be part of the Konkani Language
Planning-Steering Committee by the Global Konkani Conclave)
Thanks
Santhosh
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