Changed the draft wrt macro languages and BCP:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16968705&oldid=16781951

2017-07-04 20:27 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>:

> Hoi,
> yes and we reached consensus about the ones we use. There is a concern and
> having a two third majority should be no problem. We do have ISO 639-3
> macro languages, they should be avoided.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> On 4 July 2017 at 20:19, Michael Everson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gerard,
>>
>> We do not have any top-level BCP 47 tags.
>>
>> Wikimedia is already using BCP 47 subtags without any trouble.
>>
>> > On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:16, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hoi,
>> > In the case of macro languages and BCP 47 codes there is a need for a
>> two third majority. The first is something that should be prevented as much
>> as possible because it prevents projects that are part of the macro
>> language. For the BCP 47 there should be a real linguistic point in having
>> them and we should try to prevent them as they are often more of a
>> political than linguistic reality.
>> > Thanks,
>> >       GerardM
>> >
>> > On 9 February 2017 at 17:00, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > One issue: voting.
>> >
>> > == Voting ==
>> >
>> > This is also proposal, so read it and comment if you don't agree or
>> > you want any addition.
>> >
>> > 1) No voting
>> >
>> > 1.1) According to the Closing projects policy [1], particular member
>> > of the committee analyzes discussion and, if decides that the project
>> > should be closed, sends the request to WMF Board.
>> >
>> > 1.2) Clear-cut situations for making a language eligible for Wikimedia
>> > projects: the language has a valid ISO 639-3 code, there are no
>> > significant issues in relation to the language itself, the population
>> > of speakers is significant, request made by a native speaker. In this
>> > case, any committee member can mark language / project eligible.
>> >
>> > 1.3) Approval without obvious formal requirements. No project will be
>> > approved without them.
>> >
>> > 2) Simple majority (of those who expressed opinion)
>> >
>> > 2.1) Eligibility of a language with a valid ISO 639-3 code, but
>> > without significant population of native speakers. (Note: this covers
>> > ancient, constructed, reviving and languages with small number of
>> > speakers.)
>> >
>> > 2.2) Eligibility of a language without a valid ISO 639-3 code, but
>> > valid BCP 47 code. (Note: this covers Ecuadorian Quechua.)
>> >
>> > 2.3) Eligibility of a language with significant collision between
>> > prescriptive and descriptive information. (Note: this covers
>> > "macrolangauges".)
>> >
>> > 2.4) Project approval if not 1.3.
>> >
>> > 3) 2/3 majority (of those who expressed opinion)
>> >
>> > 3.1) Any change of the rules, including the committee's role in
>> > possible changes of the Language proposal policy [2] and Closing
>> > projects policy [1].
>> >
>> > 4) Consensus (of those who expressed opinion)
>> >
>> > 4.1) A new member of the Language committee should not be opposed by
>> > any of the current committee member.
>> >
>> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closing_projects_policy
>> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy
>> >
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