Tbh I am uncomfortable with this situation. I am indifferent about whether we should have Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia or not, but dont see what is now the reason why we find it eligible and why other languages might not be. That said, I just send this mail to voice my concern, not to pause or stop the process. I realize that a) the 7-day period is already over and b) a vote would end in favour of eligibility.
Am 10.12.2017 2:06 vorm. schrieb "Steven White" <[email protected]>: > Based on Milos's message of 22:51 UTC Friday, along with a comment from > Prof. Boeree at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee# > Lingua_Franca_Nova_(lfn), I am marking this project as approved, and will > open a phabricator task to do same. > > Steven > > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 9, 2017 7:00 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Langcom Digest, Vol 51, Issue 8 > > Send Langcom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc776d% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636484176421162611&sdata= > DA2MpcHizvjDtkEJcwus%2B%2B0QUBXxgUn5g00ioKC8kOo%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Michael Everson) > 2. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Milos Rancic) > 3. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:47:10 +0000 > From: Michael Everson <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of > LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012. > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais- > mervelias%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc > 776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C636484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q > 1hhePtdTg92do%3D&reserved=0 > > I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these > pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more? > > > On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:34, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This has been out a week with no objections, so I am marking this as > "approving" (pending language check). > > > > I guess the logical person to contact on this is the creator of the > language, C. George Boeree, Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University > of Pennsylvania. (I am told he contributed a small amount to the project, > but was not a major contributor.) He has a web page at > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fwebspace.ship.edu%2Fcgboer%2F&data=02%7C01%7C% > 7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636484176421162611&sdata=9MRPywi52Ado4Eddr062X4ZPhVyPEq > F%2Bltw5%2BfVJOCk%3D&reserved=0, and his email address is [email protected]. > Please let me know who is going to handle this. > > > > Steven > > > > Sent from Outlook > > _______________________________________________ > > Langcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc776d% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636484176421162611&sdata= > DA2MpcHizvjDtkEJcwus%2B%2B0QUBXxgUn5g00ioKC8kOo%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:51:40 +0100 > From: Milos Rancic <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia > Message-ID: > <CAJuBPbo18394N78WvUeqcRhqvp9JnoypSsP+8b0oWzdkbzrn8A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary > of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012. > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais- > mervelias%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc > 776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C636484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q > 1hhePtdTg92do%3D&reserved=0 > > > > I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these > pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more? > > Yes, I think this should be enough as the expert verification. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 06:54:38 +0100 > From: Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia > Message-ID: > <CAO53wxXi2RNNm0gsNhJE_ChiRyqdhEKc3cj97SsWg6OHuTrR-Q@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hoi, > We had Klingon at one time.. Do you really consider revisiting that ? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 8 December 2017 at 23:22, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria for which artificial > > > languages should be eligible? > > > > Agreed. 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