Hoi,
Given the current situation, it makes sense to reflect. It is also what you
ask. If it helps the process I am in favour to stop the clock and come up
with reasonable arguments. I am no longer in favour if that helps to make
us reflect on business. Business as usual is not an option.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 10 December 2017 at 09:45, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tbh I am uncomfortable with this situation. I am indifferent about whether
> we should have Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia or not, but dont see what is
> now the reason why we find it eligible and why other languages might not be.
> That said, I just send this mail to voice my concern, not to pause or stop
> the process. I realize that a) the 7-day period is already over and b) a
> vote would end in favour of eligibility.
>
> Am 10.12.2017 2:06 vorm. schrieb "Steven White" <[email protected]>:
>
>> Based on Milos's message of 22:51 UTC Friday, along with a comment from
>> Prof. Boeree at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#L
>> ingua_Franca_Nova_(lfn), I am marking this project as approved, and will
>> open a phabricator task to do same.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:47:10 +0000
>> From: Michael Everson <[email protected]>
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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>> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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>> I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of
>> LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012.
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%
>> 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia
>> s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647
>> 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
>> 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd
>> Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
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>> I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
>> pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
>>
>> > On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:34, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > This has been out a week with no objections, so I am marking this as
>> "approving" (pending language check).
>> >
>> > I guess the logical person to contact on this is the creator of the
>> language, C. George Boeree, Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University
>> of Pennsylvania. (I am told he contributed a small amount to the project,
>> but was not a major contributor.) He has a web page at
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%
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>> 062X4ZPhVyPEqF%2Bltw5%2BfVJOCk%3D&reserved=0, and his email address is
>> [email protected]. Please let me know who is going to handle this.
>> >
>> > Steven
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>> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:51:40 +0100
>> From: Milos Rancic <[email protected]>
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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>> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary
>> of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012.
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%
>> 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia
>> s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647
>> 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
>> 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd
>> Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
>> >
>> > I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
>> pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
>>
>> Yes, I think this should be enough as the expert verification.
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 06:54:38 +0100
>> From: Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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>> Hoi,
>> We had Klingon at one time.. Do you really consider revisiting that ?
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 8 December 2017 at 23:22, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria for which artificial
>> > > languages should be eligible?
>> >
>> > Agreed. If we count native speakers, Klingon is, AFAIK, immediately
>> > after Esperanto.
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