Sorry I'm late to the conversation, but I did get a request from the Armenian Wikimedia community at Wikimania 2016 specifically to assist with the assignment of an ISO code for Western Armenian. Closing the proposal may be the right thing to do at this point, but it is a bit of a chicken and egg issue wrt ISO codes. I believe there is significant community interest within the Armenian community if we could break this logjam. --scott
On Jan 22, 2018 6:37 AM, "Steven White" <[email protected]> wrote: Having heard no comments on the proposals with respect to Egyptian and Homshetsma over the last seven days, I will close both as rejected, as described in my original message. 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Re: Montenegrin project (Steven White) 2. Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010 (Steven White) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:35:23 +0000 From: Steven White <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Montenegrin project Message-ID: <CY4PR12MB18000D6A5BA7FB790B277F779EEB0@CY4PR12MB1800. namprd12.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Amir: Someone has written a response to your email to LangCom at the bottom of the discussion page on Meta. Gerard: You don't get asked all that often here to spend a lot of time on an involved, complicated decision. If I thought I could easily digest it and feed it to you I would. But I don't. I'm not asking you for a lot of time; rather, the community you serve needs you to spend the appropriate amount of time to see the latest evidence and decide what you think. 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URL: <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fpipermail%2Flangcom% 2Fattachments%2F20180115%2Fe6d81950%2Fattachment-0001.html&data=02%7C01%7C% 7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=aD8GMlhMBcNMSYyEmkiRcgA7rsdb4L xB7kOAQT2VW2E%3D&reserved=0> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:44:00 +0000 From: Steven White <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [Langcom] Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010 Message-ID: <CY4PR12MB1800DB1EA922FA483B40AA169EEB0@CY4PR12MB1800. namprd12.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here are four more requests dating back to 2010 that I'd like to dispose of: Wikipedia Egyptian (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_ languages%2FWikipedia_Egyptian&data=02%7C01%7C% 7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=%2BrODi9KQti4q37oqlUNtLv68UUvl5 IHCpK%2FG%2Fp5Bfw4%3D&reserved=0): Propose to reject. SIL marks as an ancient language; it's a predecessor of Coptic. Writing is hieroglyphics. There is no test project underway at Incubator, and the original proposer has not been active in over five years. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Nigerian Pidgin ( https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_ languages%2FWikipedia_Nigerian_Pidgin&data=02%7C01%7C% 7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=s0udxN8jheX7fbc37aZbExOwaoZ3pk s2Alaeqr5AMRU%3D&reserved=0): Marking as eligible. Ethnologue gives a figure (dating to 2005) of 30 million speakers; though not all are native, it's a widely used pidgin. Ethnologue says there isn't really a written standard, but as of 2016 there is a BBC service in the pidgin, so we can probably steer people in that direction to some extent. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Pipil (https://eur01.safelinks. protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia. org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Pipil&data=02%7C01%7C% 7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=UPsCIDgHLDNmWa5hvaHJ5q4j7vKJp% 2BJkFIZK24s249k%3D&reserved=0): Marking as eligible. Central American language classified by Glottolog as an Eastern Nahuatl language. Pipil is near extinction, and test project hasn't been all that active recently. But there's a decent amount of content there, and if it's valid content, then this is probably a project that should be encouraged. No objections were noted on the RFL page. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Homshetsma (https://eur01.safelinks. protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia. org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_ Homshetsma&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata= 3M5X3ioExyMGt7RFFfeMsxI3Fg%2F0JYynTVv3QGqnp6k%3D&reserved=0): Propose to reject. See https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= http%3A%2F%2Fglottolog.org%2Fresource%2Flanguoid%2Fid% 2Fhoms1234&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata= hfLYK5yCqF4H6jLbT3jNo7hVKv%2FT7AdcVI0o5JKeuP0%3D&reserved=0: Western Armenian dialect not fully intelligible with Armenian. It has no ISO code, and a small number of L1 speakers. The proposal dates to the (northern hemisphere) summer of 2010, and there has been no material discussion there since then. 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