Forwarded from on-wiki. It was posted there on Friday 2 March at about 18:30 
UTC.

“Dear LangCom members,

I am writing to you with intention to clarify some things regarding the 
Montenegrin Wikipedia project. I am aware that there is a lack of support for 
this project to be allowed, and the main argument is that it is a “variety” of 
Serbian language, claimed even by some members here. I’d like to remind you 
that not a single serious institution claims this to be true, they all list it 
as a member of Serbo-Croatian macro language, not a part of Serbian (an 
important distinction).

Next, some question the use of two added letters all while claiming that they 
can simply be replaced with sj, zj. As per Montenegrin orthography, this is not 
true, I can explain everything in detail on the discussion page for anyone 
interested in this, please, be free to ping me there. And on the same page 
plenty of examples have been given to show how these letters are in fact used. 
Also, alongside a few other users, I have shown some clear differences between 
Ijekavian Serbian and Montenegrin (let me remind you that ~90% of articles in 
Serbian Wikipedia are written in Ekavian standard, not Ijekavian). The most 
important feature of Montenegrin is jekavian iotation, not present in any other 
SC language, and this means that it is impossible to follow Montenegrin 
standard if we were to write Serbian (or Bosnian, Croatian) Wikipedia.

And let’s not forget the reason that most members here wish to ignore, but 
sadly, due to historical and political reasons, cannot. Serious NPOV violations 
are present on Serbian Wikipedia on literally every article regarding 
Montenegro (and lots of other political, historical topics related to other 
countries and people but it is not relevant to Montenegrin Wikipedia right 
now). I have listed quite a few examples of that in discussion page and even 
some of reverting changes that were made to regain NPOV, ping me for all of 
that as well if you cannot find it on that cluttered page. Politics do in fact 
play a big part in all of this, and explain why Montenegrin community is, 
besides all the reasons listed above, also uninterested to contribute to such 
projects, and there is a clear intention to write neutral articles retaining 
NPOV among our community, not to create propaganda-style articles that can 
sadly be found on all of these other projects.

Some propose using Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia. The very existence of it is 
harshly criticized amongst most of Serbian, Croatian community, as they find it 
unnecessary and are often feeling angry at SC community merely copying their 
articles, as claimed by some users. I won’t argue about necessity of SC 
Wikipedia, but I felt that this is a good introduction for my main reason why 
Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia is not a good solution for Montenegrin either.

Very large number of articles have parts directly copied from Serbian, 
Croatian, Bosnian Wikipedias, resulting in a huge mess on articles, with a 
single sentence being written half in Croatian, half in Serbian, which is 
utterly confusing for the reader, switching between dialects, word forms, 
grammar rules etc. In the discussion page I’ve shown how different a 
Montenegrin Wikipedia article would be from an article in Serbo-Croatian to Mr 
Amir Aharoni, please, be free to check that as well, and I can do that for any 
article you want me to, so you have a side by side comparison, just like the 
one I made there. A very large number of Croatian words is unheard of and 
unknown in Montenegrin, to the point where you simply cannot understand 
whatever you are reading about (scientific topics to the point of 
unintelligiblity!). And Croatian is vastly dominant in Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia 
(alongside those Ekavian Serbian parts in the middle of a single sentence). You 
can agree that this is not a good ground for developing a serious project 
written in Montenegrin language.

Finally, I am aware that these other projects are grandfathered, but it doesn’t 
change the fact that they do exist, and Montenegrin community sees this as very 
unfair (to say the least) and really feels that based an all of the things 
listed above, and this fact that it’s the only SC variety without it’s own 
Wikipedia, it does deserve creation of it’s own project.

Sincerely, Luka (Wiki username: Lujki).”



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