I highly doubt this would become a laughing stock. This project is actually one 
of the best, highest-quality, most serious projects I have seen in my three 
years (short two weeks) as a sysop on Incubator. That doesn't make your 
questions any less valid; I only share my perspective that this is a serious 
effort worthy of consideration.

  *   Just now looking at Catanalysis, I see six contributors with at least 500 
edits, four more with at least 100, and four more with at least 50. So this is 
not a project of only 3–5 people.
  *   There are close to 5,000 mainspace pages.  Very few are redirects. Many 
are short, but even those have good bibliographies, which is better than a lot 
of our projects do.

I would mention two points about Jan's 27 September email to the list:

  *   "Kotava indeed has an impressive text corpus." Is there a convenient list 
somewhere?
  *   I would suggest you consider looking at 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotava. It also has sourcing problems, to be 
sure. But this conlang, unlike many, comes out of the francophone world. So I'm 
not sure the lack of awareness in the anglophone world is the most appropriate 
measure of the language.

Steven


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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Kotava Wikipedia

I somewhat share the concerns mentioned by Amir and Jan van Steenbergen.
What I would hate to see is that we approve a project and then become a 
laughing stock because it turns out to be an unserious thing in one way or 
another.

Is there some proof here of any of: "independently proved number of speakers, 
use as an auxiliary language outside of online communities created solely for 
the purpose, usage outside of Wikimedia, publication of works in the language 
for general sale", as suggested by the admirable Language Proposal Policy?




Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> schrieb am Di., 5. 
Nov. 2019, 13:12:
Any other comments other than Michael's repeated approvals? ;-)

If not, we can move forward on this, but I'd like to hear the thoughts of at 
least a couple more committee members.

tir. 1. okt. 2019 kl. 15:28 skrev Michael Everson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
There seems to be something wrong with my mail server.

> On 30 Sep 2019, at 20:33, MF-Warburg 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Michael, are you ok?
>
> Michael Everson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> schrieb 
> am Mo., 30. Sep. 2019, 21:24:
> I support approval.
>
> > On 26 Sep 2019, at 22:47, Jon Harald Søby 
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Kotava Wikipedia. Kotava is a conlang 
> > created in 1978, mainly known in French-speaking countries (according to 
> > the English Wikipedia). They have a very active test wiki in Incubator, 
> > with more than 3,000 articles, which makes it bigger than the Novial 
> > Wikipedia (which we approved in 2008) and about the same size as the Lingua 
> > Franca Nova (LFN) Wikipedia (which we approved in 2017). There are several 
> > active users, and sustained activity for many months.
> >
> > Does anyone have reasons for why we should not approve this project?
> >
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