I agree with the proposal to close as well. man. 7. okt. 2024, 23:32 skrev Kimberli Mäkäräinen < [email protected]>:
> Kevin Scannell gave a very good presentation at the Celtic Knot Conference > 2024 on how the quality of the content of WP impacts the quality of > language models it is used to train. The low-quality language of > Wikiprojects created by people who claim or claimed to be native speakers > of these languages will inevitably be used to train language models since > often this is not only the easiest text to harvest, it could also be the > only available text online. This then puts any actual language community at > a major disadvantage, since they then have to fix texts á la Scots > Wikipedia. This also places an undue burden on any existing language > community that would not be there if people were honest about their > language skills in the first place (for example, we have had multiple > people who have claimed to be native speakers of both Nauruan and Kamassian > at the same time*). If the language community does not exist or there are > too few people to fix it, this low-quality material lives on, further > distorting the language. > > So I think we need to think about having some process in place when it has > become apparent that the content of a Wikiproject is akin to what was in > the Scots Wikipedia, but there is little to no language community to "save" > the project, because in my opinion, what we can do now is not suitable > anymore. For example, I do not think in this case that moving the text to > the incubator is the right solution and as I have said on the closing > proposal, the whole thing should just be nuked. If the language community > exists and wants to later on start a Wikiproject of their own, I don't > think they should be burdened with the low-to-no quality text produced by > people who don't know the language. I know of one case where the language > community has refused to touch a Wikipedia project in the incubator in > their language because all the content was created by someone who had not > the slightest clue about the language or how it works and they were not > willing to fix his mess. > > t. Kimberli > * They always pick small to non-existent, widely different language > communities to pretend they belong to for some reason. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sotiale Wiki <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2024 8:49 AM > *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <[email protected] > > > *Subject:* [Langcom] Re: Closing proposal Norfolk and Pitcairn Wikipedia > > In conclusion, I agree to accept this proposal. > > In principle, the fact that Wikipedia is inactive is meaningless as long > as there is already valid content. > However, this project currently owns about 400 pages, and most of them are > very short pages; this means that it cannot be highly evaluated as valid > content. > Also, it is unlikely that there will be any activity in the near future, > so it should be closed considering these points. > > If contributors could show up in the near future, it might be evaluated > differently, > but this project is not like that, and since it is already on its third > proposal, it should be seriously considered for closure. > > Sotiale > > 2024년 10월 7일 (월) 오전 1:20, MF-Warburg <[email protected]>님이 작성: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Pitkern_%26_Norfuk_Wikipedia_3 > > I suggest to accept the proposal. > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
_______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
