Also ,am little disheartened to see not much activity happening on langsec , even after we have break through results .
Regards, Sashank http://lnkd.in/88sgfr On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Grawrock, David <[email protected]>wrote: > I'd like to 2nd Sashank's comment. We need to find ways to show HOW you do > things differently. Suppose I've got a HW input buffer and I normally send > in a buffer size with a command as the first byte and that determines what > the rest of the buffer looks like. We know that is not the best, but what > does the better one look like. To have an impact to engineers we really > need to start showing them what better looks like and how it will help them. > > David Grawrock > Security Architect > 503 264 3642 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sergey Bratus > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:29 AM > To: Sashank Dara > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [langsec-discuss] LangSec Workshop at IEEE SPW 2014, Sun May > 18, 2014 > > Hi Sashank, > > Thank you! We'll look for ways to emphasize the practical case study > part. > > Thanks, > > --Sergey > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, Sashank Dara wrote: > > > just my 2 cents . > > > > Recently i gave a talk on langsec internally for big room of engineers . > > frankly teaching science to engineers is difficult . I lost my > > audience the moment i showed them chomsky hierarcy and talking stuff > like grammars > > and rules . they sounded more theoretical . Usually engineers want to > see > > more concrete things , things in action . I did mention libdejector > > and Haskell based IP Stack that comes close to langsec . I did mention > > that fuzzing based testing is not enough. > > > > So if possible some tools developed based on langsec principles to > > hack popular protocols as demos might get more interest . > > making them available as open source might further help to people play > > around with them . > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Sashank > > http://lnkd.in/88sgfr > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Sergey Bratus <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Hi Will, > >> > >> We are soliciting papers on research and/or case studies as per > >> the CFP, will have the Program Committee review them, and have the > >> accepted papers presented by the authors at the workshop, with > >> audience participation. We will have an invited keynote or two. We > >> will also hold a discussion on the directions of the field in some form. > >> > >> We are very open to suggestions of how to make it interesting to > >> attend for all researchers, programmers, and hackers interested in the > topic! > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> --Sergey > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Will Sargent wrote: > >> > >> What happens at the workshop? > >>> > >>> Will. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Sergey Bratus > >>> <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear All, > >>>> > >>>> We will hold a LangSec workshop as a part of the IEEE CS > >>>> Security and Privacy Workshops > >>>> (http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SPW2014/index.html), > >>>> co-located with the Symposium on Security and Privacy at the > >>>> Fairmont San Jose Hotel. Our workshop will be a full-day workshop > >>>> on Sunday May 18, 2014. > >>>> > >>>> The CFP and other info is now posted at http://spw14.langsec.org/. > >>>> Please feel free to advertise and suggest it to potential sponsors! > >>>> We would like to work out a way to waive or reduce the registration > >>>> fees for industry programmers, students, hackers and enthusiasts. > >>>> > >>>> Needless to say, please do submit your research or case study > papers! > >>>> > >>>> Thank you very much & hoping to see you at the workshop, > >>>> > >>>> --Sergey > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> langsec-discuss mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://mail.langsec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/langsec-discuss > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> langsec-discuss mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.langsec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/langsec-discuss > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > langsec-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.langsec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/langsec-discuss >
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