Yes!  This would be great.  -Neil

On Nov 29, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Henry Minsky wrote:

What I am beginning to think is that there need to be two different instantiation APIs for components, one which is designed to be called from LZX (XML), which does a lot of "automagic" setup, and one designed to be called from script, which exposes all the individual steps as much as possible. So you can decide for example to instantiate a menu item before there is a parent to add it to, or if you need to add it to a place in
the parent which isn't at the end of the current list of items.

Tucker has proposed using something besides "new" to create new components in script. I think that is a good idea, but maybe we need to go one step further and have some conventions for two different standard ways to instantiate a component:

One way is the "LZX" way, where you pass a parent view, and an arglist, so that "new MyFrob(...)" behaves as much as possible like using <MyFrob> in LZX; as much magic as possible is done to install the object into it's parent environment.

And the other would be the "script" way, which behaves in a more modular fashion, so you would expect to manually instantiate an object, then add it to a parent or not at your discretion, and set callbacks and event handlers, etc, manually.



On 11/29/05, Don Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What are the advantages of dynamically creating user interface components through xml data binding, instead of using a JavaScript api?


I've been playing around with pie menus for Laszlo, trying to come up with a Laszlish way to dynamically create and configure them.


http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/40

http://www.donhopkins.com/lzxnet/my-apps/PieTest.lzx

http://www.donhopkins.com/lzxnet/my-apps/PieTest.lzx?lzt=source

http://www.donhopkins.com/lzxnet/my-apps/piemenu.lzx?lzt=source


The Laszlo pie menus don't currently support an API for modifying the menus dynamically, but I've been thinking about how that should work, and how it could support user-editable menus that knew how to write themselves back out as XML.


Some pie menus are dynamically generated from data, so all items are usually handled the same (or from a small set of pre-defined handlers based on the dataset), but other pie menus are designed by hand with custom handlers, tracking feedback and graphical resources associated with each item.


One problem with only defining widgets from XML, is how do you attach custom methods and event handlers to widgets?


Including custom JavaScript handlers and constraints in the widget xml definition would require a JavaScript compiler in the Flash player (but it would be possible in the DHTML version of Laszlo). You have to pre-define all the handlers and constraint expressions as named functions, refer to their names in the xml, and look them up at run-time.


            -Don






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