I think folks at laszlo should do whatever fits into their products best. Best for the project will be if a healthy company standing behind it and supporting the development. After all a big community is nice but the number of users who will ever do the step from a user to contributer that adds significant changes to the core is very little. So in general big communities are good for getting you a job but a big part of improvements and contributions are done by the one's that are paid to work at laszlo.
sebastian 2009/9/8 Raju Bitter <[email protected]> > Thanks for the feedback, Sebastian! I get your point. The other side of the > story is, that all the goodies you have with Flash 10 are not integrated > into OpenLaszlo (3d transform, new text layout engine, drawing API, color > correction). If there is solid support for the new text layout features > only, that would really enhance the SWF runtime! > It comes down to the decision if you want to innovate by adopting new > features supported in Flash 9/10, or by trying to support an - in my eyes - > out-dated version of Flash. Flash Player 8 final was released in 2005, > that's a long time ago! The next big thing for Flash is going to be Flash 10 > on Android, webOS and Windows Mobile. Should OpenLaszlo try to jump onto > that train, for the first time making the SWFx runtime an interesting option > for mobile apps? In the end the Laszlo folks will have to make the decision, > but I have the feeling that the platform is falling behind other RIA > technologies innovation-wise. To me OpenLaszlo is only interesting if I see > that there's enough innovation in the platform. I've shown with a few demos > what can be done with the DHTML runtime, a bit of HTML 5 or CSS 2/3 support. > Some of these features could be matched in the SWF runtime with better Flash > 10 support, and I think that would be a powerful combination. > > Other RIA technologies have better tool support, better documentation and > much larger communities = more paid project work!!! That can be countered by > having an interesting feature set. I don't want to raise the discussion > again, but if you look at the response to release announcements and the > activity in the forums/mailing lists, the community is tiny compared to what > it was like in 2005/2006. > > Again, I'd be happy to hear what other community members think. > > - Raju > > > On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Sebastian Wagner wrote: > > I think if you do that a lot of folks have their *old* apps and are forced > to sit some weeks in their office trying to shift it to AS3, stay with the > old platform or find another solution. > > > > sebastian > > 2009/9/8 Raju Bitter <[email protected]> > >> Hm, no answer? Is that something you don't want to discuss with the >> community? >> >> On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Raju Bitter wrote: >> >> Do you still plan to support SWF8 with OL 5.0? I believe that OL needs to >> shift the focus to DHTML/HTML5 and Flash 10 instead. Flash 8 is just >> out-dated by now, and I cannot imagine good use for the runtime. According >> to Adobe, Flash 10 is installed on nearly 87% of Internet-connected desktop >> computers by now: >> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2009/07/welcome-to-the-flash-platform.html >> >> The new Flash 10 features are much more interesting for OpenLaszlo than >> continued SWF8 support, especially things like the improved text engine and >> 3d functionality. >> >> Flash 10 and mobile: Adobe announced a beta version of Flash 10 player for >> Android, Palm Pre and other phones for October (Max 2009). For some time >> SFW8 was still an option for Flash Lite 2.1 or 3.0 - although I don't know >> of any deployed application, but that will change with the release of Flash >> 10 player for mobile devices. >> >> I know that Laszlo still uses SWF8 for Webtop, but it will only be a >> matter of time until that's not needed any more. >> >> >> > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com > http://www.laszlo-forum.de > [email protected] > > > -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.webbase-design.de http://openmeetings.googlecode.com http://www.laszlo-forum.de [email protected]
