Hi all,
there's a very interesting chapter in the "Laszlo in Action" book
(chapter 5) where an approach to rapid prototyping of laszlo
applications is presented. This is the exact point where an IDE could be
of big help when it comes to develop a OL module. One could build the
gross look of the page, add menubars and menus, setup tabs, insert
controls and define fonts, bgcolors, sizes, positions, declasre the
datasets he intends to use, "drag and drop" some xml nodes from a
dataset to widgets for defining bindings a.s.o.
This would rather speed up the initial development. After that
preliminary work a developer could step back to handwriting for
inserting extra scripted functionality.
Actually I tried to write an Openlaszlo page that acts as a "visual
designer" performing more or less the things I mentioned before. It is
also able to create a meta-xml-model storing the structure of a page
through a proper servlet for reopening it in the next editing session or
for transforming it (through xsl for example) into a standalone working
lzx page.
The motivation for making it in OL itself is because I didn't have the
time to create a presentation framework (SWING? SWT? GTK?) that closely
resembles OL. The tool seems to work even if there are some drawbacks
such as for example the impossibility to add <script> nodes to the dom
at runtime or the necessity to structure it in client/server even if
standalone would probably be better.
It would please me to know what you OL experts think about this approach
and if it could be  a viable solution for an OL IDE concept.
Thank you,
M.


Khurram Samad ha scritto:
> Hi Daniel
> Thanks for pointing to the relevant post. We are considering various
> options: Plugin might be an option as well.
>
> Regards,
> Khurram Samad
> www.geniteam.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonardo Mateo
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:49 AM
> To: Daniel Garrido
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Open Laszlo IDE
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Daniel Garrido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>   
>> Hi!
>> I also believe that an IDE might make a huge difference. In my workplace
>> there are people using Silverlight as well as Flex and they refuse using
>> Openlaszlo, when there's no proper IDE to it. Even though they notice that
>> I'm able to accomplish similar results without the use of an IDE.
>>     
> Of course you are but, here is where the IDE comes to play, to ease
> the things out. You should still be able to accomplish similar results
> without it, your development shouldn't rely excelusively on an IDE as
> it is in the case of Flex (I know you can do it by hand too, but it's
> a real pain in the a**), I think an IDE should be just one more tool
> for the software development.
>   
>> Anyway the reason I'm writing you is, seems you're thinking about creating
>> from scratch a new OL IDE, but maybe you could try to collaborate with a
>> swiss company that picked up an already existing OL IDE and improved it to
>> version 4: http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?t=11772
>>     
>
> Well, this might be one point to consider, I didn't know it, but I'll
> take a look.
>
> Cheers and thank you for your interest.
>
>
>   

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