On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Julian Edwards <julian.edwa...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Tuesday 14 June 2011 01:55:28 Robert Collins wrote: >> Currently we get two (IMO) distinct benefits from running linters: >> * we find out about functional issues: >> - repeated definitions >> - unsafe constructs >> * We find out about cosmetic issues: >> - whitespace >> - indentation >> >> I think we get great value from the former, and limited if any value >> from the second. > > I get good value from both, quite frankly, excepting the stupid warnings like > the one about having a blank line at the end of the file.
Can you expand on the value you get? What does it do for you / us to be told about whitespace and indentation variation? >> So, I'd like to propose we do something other projects do: restrict >> lint to reporting on functional issues, and use an idempotent pretty >> printer to reformat our code automatically. >> >> We would add a post-commit hook in pqm that would reformat the changed >> files using the pretty printer, and we'd no longer need to spend any >> time thinking or worrying about formatting. >> >> What do you think? > > -1 > > I don't trust pretty printers any further than I can throw 'em. I also want > to indent and format stuff as *I* like within the rules. I've had very good experience with them on every project that got them up and running (and smashed on a few times to sort teething-issues out) in the past. > As Gavin said, let's just suppress the useless warnings in the linter and > carry on as we were. I suspect most of us have pyflakes in our editors > anyway, which means we get very few genuine bits of lint. So, to me, just about all of the format-and-layout warnings are useless: they don't make our code less buggy; my argument here is to free our brains to focus on the stuff that matters; lower the bar for casual contributors [by lowering the workload for all developers]. Many folk have internalised the rules, but many more haven't. -Rob _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev Post to : launchpad-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp