Hello Steve, On 5/23/07, Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have comments on the general issue of harassment and inappropriate > behaviour, and also on the issue of using real names. I'm interested in > hearing some further discussion on this issue, and after that I'll be > working with Matthew Revell and other members of the Launchpad team on > making a draft code of conduct.
I found a document created by Matthew Garrett on the wiki and made a spec here : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/coc-dispute-resolution Another spec of a draft I created (some based on my experience and from what I have seen happen to others) is here : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/coc-etiquette-guidelines Although both are not specifically related to LP, it should provide some insight to the problems and how we can find ways to solve it. > = Harassment and inappropriate behaviour = > > I want to form a Launchpad community team to be a point of contact for > community problems such as harassment and inappropriate behaviour via > Launchpad. We'll agree a process for nominating and accepting people > onto this team. I want the team to be diverse in its membership. In > particular, I'd like to see both women and men on the team. This is > important so that someone who is being harassed related to their gender > can feel comfortable seeking help. This team will have a direct contact > with senior people on the Launchpad team, so we can effectively and > fairly deal with problems as they occur. That sounds like a positive step, something I was asking for on the UW list. I am glad that someone was listening. > = Using real names = > > The Launchpad code of conduct should say "I won't misrepresent myself > through my name or nickname." > > So, a nickname like sadbfl (a typo of sabdfl) would not be allowed. ... trying to harass The sabdfl ? I guess people are smarter than that :-) But what about the volunteers ...is it possible to extend such priviledges to them? > I think it's fine to use a made-up name, so long as it is your own > made-up name, and you're not trying to mislead people through using it. > > For Launchpad purposes, we require you to use your real names if you're > going to be a Launchpad beta tester. Being a beta tester means taking > on a particular responsibility, and making an agreement with the > Launchpad team about that. I want to know someone's name when I enter > into an agreement with them. So, we'll require real names for Launchpad > beta testers. The thing I find annoying is : googling for a name used on LP throws it out very prominently. Is there any way to avoid this ? > overall. I've read through a number of accounts of harassment online, > including some of those on the ubuntu-women mailing list. I noticed > that the worst harassment is done by people who do not reveal their > names. Not necessarily. People can reveal their real name and still harass a woman online simply because "they _can_ get away with it" with no absolutely zero consequences. > So, I want us to encourage a community where people reveal their > names, and are held responsible for their actions. Sorry, I disagree. Revealing my real name (thereby gender+country) has led to the harassment in the first place. Prior to Ubuntu (and even after joining) I was happily using a nick all along and never had any problems. It all started with me founding UW and thereby having to reveal my real name, location, etc if I wanted to be taken seriously. > We will consider technical solutions to this problem, such as asking for > real names that are visible only to Launchpad administrators, or only to > other Launchpad community members who have signed the code of conduct. There is a lacunae here, what is to prevent a person who has signed the CoC from harassing another person who has not signed the CoC. Even if a team member takes the trouble to go to the CC and spends time proving that he/she was harassed the whole thing is pretty much a grey area since there are no consequences and they can pretty much continue doing whatever.... Thanks for taking this further. -- Vid http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/VidAyer -- launchpad-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
