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Hi Kathy,
>Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Terry IMHO this is a post done by a desperate person, as everyone knows
>the DP and the laws surrounding it have all changed.
The laws I gave you were the most recent I found. I will be glad for any
updates.
>It's pretty pathetic when you have to go back over 50 years to support your
>argument. If you want to seriously discuss this issue at least use the
>laws and guidelines we're under now. It would be like me talking about
>cruel and unusual punishment that we submit prisoners to and using the
>example of the men sentenced to work on slave ships. I would be laughed
>at for that type of reasoning. There isn't a comparison, just as your
>assertion that the U.S. kills kids under the DP in the US and current
>sentencing guidelines show that not to be true. Show me one person in
>the US who was under the age of 18 that was executed after 1972. To save
>you some time I'll let you know right now, you won't be able to, since
>it hasn't happened. Yet you can try to find someone.
If a 16-year-old commits a murder and is sentenced to die in a subsequent
trial, you may find comfort in his sitting in prison for a decade or two
while he waits for his death sentence to be carried out. My interpretation
is that we kill kids, one of only 6 countries that do. There are currently
a number of men sitting on death row for murders committed when they were
juveniles.
>Use current information for a current debate. Comparing the 1940's and
>the 1990's is ridiculous to me.
I remember the 1940's quite well. Slave ships are before my time.
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>> > > June 16, 1944: George Stinney Jr. (14) is executed in
>> > > South Carolina's electric chair. He was only 5'-1" tall
>> > > and weighed 95 pounds. A local paper reported that
>> > > the guards had difficulties strapping him onto the chair and
>> > > attaching the electrodes.
>> > >
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>>
>> Since 1990 only five countries including the United States have sentenced
>> those convicted of crimes when they were minors to death. With appeals you
>> are correct that 16- and 17-year-olds are likely to mature before we execute
>> them.
>>
>> No minimum age: Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Montana, Pennsylvania, South
>> Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Washington
>>
>> Minimum age 14: Arkansas
>>
>> Minimum age 15: Louisiana, Virginia
>>
>> Minimum age 16: Alabama, Delaware, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi,
>> Missouri, Nevada, Oklahoma, Wyoming
>>
>> Minimum age 17: Georgia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Texas
>>
>> Total: 25 states allow executions for juvenile offenses
>> (Source: Wisconsin Legislative Reference Bureau)
>>
>> [I have no explanation for the reason the 11- and 13-year-olds in Jonesboro
>> cannot be tried as adults according to news reports. There may have been
>> changes in the law since the above data was compiled.]
>>
>> Damien Echols was 17 years old when he supposedly participated in the murder
>> of three small boys. He was convicted in West Memphis, Arkansas, in a wave
>> of hysteria over satanic cults with laughable evidence. In his case some
>> prison guards were actually fired for permitting his daily sodomization by
>> another prisoner on death row over a period of weeks. His prospects for
>> eventual exoneration are quite guarded under current rules for appeals.
>>
>> Best, Terry
>>
>> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's Dictionary
>>
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Best, Terry
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