Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Bill
Thank you a hundred times. This article is definitely one for me to look
at. I am going to the library today or tomorrow (the public one) and will
get it if they carry Life. The twins you are talking about I think are part
of the study carried on by the researcher in Mpls, MN. He is at the U of M,
can't think of his name, but he has been studying twins for years now,
especially separated twins at birth. But, like you, I do agree with the fact
that their adoptive environments would be similar in some ways--poor people
do not adopt children usually, so similar in socioeconomic status would play
a role I would think. Also, babies in those days were matched to adoptive
parents much more than today. But I definitely will get the issue of Life.
jackief
William J. Foristal wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
>
> Hi Jackie,
>
> LOL...the only reason I could put it into two sentences was because I
> read your excellent synopsis. :)
>
> BTW, the current issue of Life magazine has an excellent article about
> nature and nurture. They tend to side with nature as being the dominant
> force with nurture playing a minor role. However, I think that the more
> extreme nurture and environment become the more of a role they play in
> shaping the total person.
>
> The article makes the observation that we are the only animals on earth
> that can overrule our genes. We do it all the time.
>
> Another interesting tidbit. " In 1979 a steelworker named Jim Lewis and a
> clerical worker named Jim Springer met. Identical twins separated five
> weeks after birth, they were raised by families 80 miles apart in Ohio.
> Reunited 39 years later, they would have strained the credulity of the
> editors of Ripley's Believer It or Not. Not only did both have dark
> hair, stand six feet tall and weigh 180 pounds, but they sopke with the
> same inflections, moved with the same gait and made the same gestures.
> Both loved stock car racing and hated baseball. Both married women named
> Linda, divorced them and married women named Betty. Both drove
> Chevrolets, drank Miller Lite, chain-smoked Salems and vacationed on the
> same half mile stretch of Florida beach. Both had elevated blood
> pressure, severe migraines and had undergone vasectomies. Both bit their
> nails. Their heart rates, brain waves and IQ's were nearly identical.
> Their scores on personality tests were as close as if one person had
> taken the same test twice."
>
> This is amazing although I did note that some of the traits could be
> explained by environmental factors as opposed to genetics.
>
> It's the April, 1998 issue if you'd like to check it out. Great article.
>
> Bill
>
> On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:13:31 -0600 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >Darn it, Bill
> >
> >You did it again. You put into two sentences what I was trying to
> >say. Will
> >I ever learn?? <VBG>
> >
> >jackief
> >
> >William J. Foristal wrote:
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> >>
> >> HI Jackie,
> >>
> >> How about this one.
> >>
> >> Genetics is everything that is internal to the organism.
> >>
> >> Environment is everything that is external to the organism.
> >>
> >> We experience some environmental effects even before we are born.
> >Hence,
> >> the old saying about one's mother being frightened by something when
> >she
> >> was pregnant.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 06:14:30 -0600 Jackie Fellows
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> writes:
> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Dr. L
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the quick reply. You are so right, I should specify
> >what I
> >> >am looking
> >> >for, thanks for the reminder. I guess by environment I am
> >including
> >> >social
> >> >environment (interactions, socialization, culture, etc.) and the
> >> >physical
> >> >environment. Genetics would not, per se, be included in this
> >> >definition. By
> >> >physical environment, I probably would be more interested in the
> >> >environment we
> >> >have created, rather than the natural physical environment (hate
> >the
> >> >word, man-made
> >> >environment--grin). Maybe a few examples would help.
> >> >
> >> >Social environment--is there a cultural parental practice (placing
> >> >babies on their
> >> >tummies as once was thought to be the best) that might contribute
> >to
> >> >the disparity
> >> >in infant mortality rates?? The discussion we had on infants
> >sleeping
> >> >with the
> >> >mother is another example of cultural parental practices.
> >> >
> >> >Physical environment: the lead poisoning that Doc sent. Another
> >one
> >> >might be the
> >> >occupation of the parent in regard to working in a pollution risk
> >> >occupation--"mad
> >> >as a hatter" comes to mind--that may affect the child during the
> >> >prenatal period.
> >> >
> >> >This may be off the track on legal issues, but then again, perhaps,
> >> >not as when
> >> >these factors are factually supported we often see laws and
> >> >regulations passed to
> >> >reduce the risk. X-rays is a good example of this, as well as the
> >> >selling of
> >> >lead-based paint.
> >> >
> >> >Am off to surf the Net for stuff on personality, learning styles,
> >and
> >> >career
> >> >preferences. That is another issue that Doc has helped me with.
> >> >Aren't I lucky to
> >> >have Doc on this list!! As you may have guessed Dr. L, I am an
> >> >insatiable
> >> >researcher in preparing class lectures. This summer there will be
> >> >other topics I
> >> >am sure <bg>
> >> >
> >> >jackief
> >>
> >>
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