Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Bill
Is the U of St Louis the only college there?? I can't remember. It is the
college that had Laud Humphreys as a faculty member. The gossip is that the
faculty could not get along at all--differences in sociological perspective,
etc. Part of the reason was that Humphreys was thought to have conducted
unethical research for his dissertation. The administration said they were
making a combined department--can't remember the title they gave it, maybe
behavioral sciences or something like that--because of money
considerations. But, of course, other reasons were thought by many. Oh the
trivia you pick up sometimes in gossip.
I really don't know much about Monsanto, so can't comment on what they do.
But, St. Louis does have quite a bit of old wealth there don't
they--Budweiser, etc. Went on a tour of haunted houses in St. Louis once
when I was at my first conference. Very interesting city in more ways than
one.
jackief
William J. Foristal wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
>
> Hi Jackie,
>
> I never heard that one. Don't know if Monsanto had anything to do with
> the Government experiments back in the 50's. They have a pretty good
> track record of environmental programs as well as community service.
> They have now spun off their chemical business into a company named
> Solutia. The Monsanto company is now a life sciences company that is
> into agriculutural products and pharmaceuticals.
>
> I didn't realize that St. Louis University abolished their sociology
> department. The Jesuits are not known to cave in to outside threats. :)
>
> Bill
>
> On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:35 -0600 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >Hi Bill
> >
> >Could Monsanto have something to do with the popularity? I know there
> >was
> >gossip in the academic circles that when St. Louis abolished there
> >sociology
> >department it was because the department was known as being Marxist
> >and
> >Monsanto implied they would withdraw all their research funding if
> >they
> >didn't. Gossip, just gossip
> >
> >jackief
> >
> >William J. Foristal wrote:
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> >>
> >> Hi Jackie,
> >>
> >> Yeah, I remember those projects. They produced some notable people
> >like
> >> Leon Spinks. :)
> >>
> >> There was another experiment that involved spraying materials that
> >> contained Cadmium. I'm not sure why St. Louis was such a popular
> >site
> >> for this stuff.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:16:58 -0600 Jackie Fellows
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> writes:
> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Bill
> >> >
> >> >I think Mpls was a target of their experiments also. I know, when
> >> >asked,
> >> >many scientists would say they tried the new technology because it
> >was
> >> >there
> >> >without thinking of any of the reprecussions.
> >> >
> >> >Boy, St. Louis was the target of many experiements it seems.
> >Remember
> >> >the
> >> >housing project that is now a gentrification area there. Now that
> >was
> >> >a
> >> >disaster, and they couldn't figure out why people behaved the way
> >they
> >> >did
> >> >in that project.
> >> >
> >> >jackief
> >> >
> >> >William J. Foristal wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Jackie,
> >> >>
> >> >> I think they are trying to recover much of the land where Love
> >Canal
> >> >> existed. They have done a lot of remediation and clean up and
> >lots
> >> >of
> >> >> testing of soil and ground water. Still, I don't think I would
> >want
> >> >to
> >> >> live there.
> >> >>
> >> >> Some of the experiments the government conducted in the past were
> >> >> ridiculous, IMO. St. Louis was involved in one of the spraying
> >> >> experiments and the spray contained radioactive materials. Then
> >> >there
> >> >> was the Strontium 90 that made it into the milk supply.
> >Ignorance
> >> >> accounts for some of this, and irresponsibiltiy accounts for much
> >of
> >> >it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:45:32 -0600 Jackie Fellows
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> writes:
> >> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi Bill
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I had forgotten about the chorinated pesticides. Really makes
> >you
> >> >> >wonder,
> >> >> >especially after reading quite a while back that the U.S. was
> >> >spraying
> >> >> >cities with some chemical to check how far the wind would carry
> >the
> >> >> >stuff.
> >> >> >I know Mpls was one of the sites they used. Didn't I hear that
> >the
> >> >> >site of
> >> >> >the Love Canal still has people living on it or was that vice
> >> >versa?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >jackief
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
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