Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Dr. L
That thought had entered my head as well as the rest of you on the list so
didn't bother posting. A question I have though is that doesn't the first
definition cancel out the others. If not, then wouldn't doctors and other
health related professionals have sexual relations with all their
patients/clients?? (Reading it literally, of course). After all, the other
three defintiions did not include intent to arouse or gratify sexual desire.
A question Ed and I tossed around last night: The Jones lawyers used the
summary to allege a pattern of obstructing justice, but used Lewinsky and
Willey as evidence to show this. How do you use information gathered for
alleged practices occurring after the fact as a pattern occurring in the
past. Isn't it vice versa--the past is used to establish a pattern in the
present?? (Which I think is subject to controversy--the use of past in some
cases to establish guilt for the present alleged crime).
The second question is stickier I think. If the brief the Jones lawyers
submitted on the summary judgement used a pattern of obstructing justice,
rather than a pattern of sexual harassment (Willey occurred afterwards;
Lewinsky and Flowers seemed to be consensual) then don't the rules change in
regard to bringing up the past of the plaintiff--you aren't suppose to use
past of the victim of a sexual crime, but the focus has changed so is she fair
game now??
jackief
Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff wrote:
> "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Kathy - rather interesting that to be accused one must have contact with
> another person in certain areas of the body; but what if its the other
> person who has contact with the accused? ('accused' used loosely here)
> <g> :) LDMF.
> ---------------------Kathy E wrote:-----------------------------------
> >
> > Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > I thought this was hilarious!
> >
> > Lawyers for Paula Jones took the precaution of presenting President
> > Clinton with an explicit written definition of ``sexual relations''
> > before questioning him under oath on Jan. 17, according to court papers
> > released Friday.
> >
> > Jones alleges that Clinton exposed himself to her and asked for oral sex
> > in a Little Rock hotel in May 1991 when he was Arkansas governor and she
> > was a low-level state employee, an allegation Clinton has denied.
> >
> > Jones' lawyers asked Clinton in the January sworn statement if he had
> > had sexual relations with a number of women. He denied having done so
> > with all except Gennifer Flowers, a former cabaret singer with whom
> > Clinton said he had sex once in 1977.
> >
> > The meaning of ``sexual relations'' is important because of speculation
> > that Clinton would try to use a narrow definition to try to avoid
> > admitting any impropriety.
> >
> > Here is the text of the definition as it was presented to the president
> > on Jan. 17:
> >
> > ``For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual
> > relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes:
> >
> > -- contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or
> > buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual
> > desire of any person;
> >
> > -- contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the
> > genitals or anus of another person; or
> >
> > -- contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of
> > another person's body.
> >
> > -- Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through
> > clothing.''
> > --
> > Kathy E
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> > isn't looking too good for you either"
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