On 5/30/2010 06:33, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 02:30:19AM +0200, Dimitri Smits wrote:
Java, silverlight.net on small hosting? Less than CGI?

Ruby is even more an white elephant. NEver saw a commercial hoster offer
RoR. (sure if I go to the Ruby site I find a few), but it is not THAT
mainsteram.

plus it has its own problems and foibles... the first i ran headlong into was which server to use... i use apache but RoR wants to use its own server... it was ok while i dabbled with it during developing a few minor things to see how it would go but i was unable to then move those apps to my apache server and get them operational in a "deployed" environment...

the task i was looking at should easily be handled with a RAD environment... heck, it was only hooking into a database with several tables linked by a couple of "ID codes" (what i know of as a relational database) and a minor bit of math on a few of the numbers... the worst part would be the handling of transactions and inventory moving in and out... i couldn't even get started on it in RoR... since i have a pascal background, a friend pointed me at Lazarus and FPC... i still haven't gotten that app doshed up due to the various problems i ran into with connecting to a database, trying to use the tabbed notebook (i like the look and feel of it), and other sundry problems that a console only coder runs into when attempting to move to a GUI environment... groking the OOP stuff isn't that bad for me since i was exposed to it when it first appeared back in TP/BP 6 but it is still "new" to me since i stayed with purely procedural coding all these years...

we won't even touch on whether or not to do a binary interface or a web interface or both... i definitely don't want to be junking up the works with a bunch of java, javascript, flash, sliverlight, or any of that other stuff that enlarges the surface area that may be attacked and compromised... as a security minded admin and coding geek, that's definitely something that i keep in mind all the time... indeed, it is why i refuse to run any of the popular CMS' for example... there's just too much that can and does go wrong...

additionally, i won't even mention that i've only been able to update to a newer version of Laz/FPC twice since i first took a look at it... why? because there's only been two releases since then... yes, i know why and i don't have a problem with it... i'm just thankful that there's something available besides delphi and that this something is cross-platform capable because that is very important... but i also eagerly await the next release with all these bug fixes and new features that i read about daily in this list...


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