----- Original Message -----
From: "Mattias Gaertner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [lazarus] button icons for lazarus
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:35:03 +0100
> "Darius Blaszijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > I've browsed through the list and find that some icons are missing
> > > > (packages / run / among others). But I guess we could use the
existing
> > ones
> > > > here. Another thing is that the icons all are 16x16 in size. There
> > should
> > > > be a 22x22 equivalent though also included. Just have a look at the
> > > > todolist for example to see why. Large buttons plainly need 22x22 or
> > else
> > > > it looks flimsy.
> > > Well I wasn't trying to extend the IDE, but to give a tool for USERS
of
> > the
> > > IDE, specifically to give replacements for the standard icons that
> > > delphi shipped with. These are not really meant for use INSIDE the
IDE,
> > > but are meant to be available to people coding WITH the IDE.
> >
> > I have misunderstood you in that case, but why not join the effords? If
we
> > make a good iconset for Lazarus we can ship it with Lazarus for use by
> > coders.
> >
> > > > You are using Nuvola and CrystalSVG, ever considered Tango? I also
> > > > like
> > the
> > > > naming they use. It's like a taxonomy of functionality. I would like
> > > > to suggest taking over the naming for our purpose and start from
> > > > there. You added a huge list of icons, but I would be in favor of
> > > > limiting the
> > number.
> > > > Because all you get is each button having their own icon (like we do
> > > > now have). If we start with from functionality and work our way up I
> > > > believe
> > we
> > > > have more success in unifying lazarus. We can vote per icon wether
to
> > use
> > > > it in te "base" set or not.
> > > I had a look at Tango, I must admit I like Nuvola better, I only used
> > Crystal
> > > where nuvola didn't have something that could cleanly replace the
> > > specific icon I was trying to replace. One of the little perks of
being
> > > the one who actually DOES it, is that you get to choose what gets done
> > > first, since Nuvola is the default icon set for OpenLab, using it
means
> > > my apps will integrate better in the environment I work on for a
living,
> > > others are welcome to do other sets and I am happy to help them as
well
> > > but since I
> > was
> > > the one doing it and nobody had complained about the Nuvola proposal,
I
> > went
> > > ahead.
> >
> > Don't feel offended, but if we ship a Nuvola or CrystalSVG or Tango (or
> > whatever) iconset with Lazarus (for use in apps) we will run into the
same
> > problem you just described. People like working with icons that blend
into
> > their interface. Therefore I would suggest developing a conststent
> > iconset for lazarus (could be Nuvola or whatever) and ship that. People
> > will appreciate the feature wich comes free (seing it's been used by
> > Lazarus already).
> > The startingpoint for the iconset should be a naming convention IMHO and
> > go from there.
> > (Mattias, could we make ideimages.pas part of the LCL so any app can
link
> > to that?)
>
> I will take a look. Of course we should rename it then. For example
> StdImages.pas.
> And of course using one item in an appliation should not include 50 others
> as well.
Well yes, that was my thinking too, but perhaps we could generate a single
unit per image and use that in StdImage.pas some way. I'm just thinking up
load.
Darius
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